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Discussion id : 66-199
most recent 24 MAY 13 SHOW ALL
Initial post 3 AUG 12 by Bini
hello, my name is Bini, I´m from germany. ours is a 6b climat. I´d like to share with you why "Westerland"is my favorit rose and why, if I would be allowed to have only one rose in my garden, it sure would be "Westerland".
"Westerland" was among the first roses I ever got, 15 years back, when I was looking for tall, blooming plants to set along a fence towards the street. I don´t even remember why I got it, because then I was in my " pink phase" .
I put it in our heavy clay ground with lots of composted horse manure and just watched it grow. within 2 years it had metamorphosed into a 2.50m high, almost 2 m wide bloom-monster. if you dead-head it, it blooms. if you don´t, it sets hips and blooms, if you feed it, it blooms, if you forget, it blooms.if it gets blackspots in moist years, it shakes off those spotted leaves and blooms. and along with the many blooms comes a fragrant.... so strong and wonderful...
I´ve seen pedestrians stop dead in their tracks, or come over from the other side of the street, just do burry ther noses in my "Westerland".
I´ve been ask so many times about her name and whereabouts, that I actually thought about putting a name tack outside of the fence, but then I would have missed all those little talks. Many could just not resist and nicked a bloom from her, but neither my "Westerland" nor I did mind, we understood eachother as ambassadors of roses.
Her color was a truly strong orange, more yellow in the middle, in hot weather or as the days went by the blooms brightend into lighter colors, some even into soft baby-rosè with a yellow center. the blooms stayed on the shrub long, and if you where lazy turning into big green hips. she started doing her blooming-thing in mid-june until father frost send her to sleep.
Last winter we had an freakish warm january, followed by 6 weeks of dry, bitter frost.It took about half of all my roses. old or young, protected or not,monsters and petits all the same.And it took my "Westerland".
maybe you already know how it feels to take a saw to the corps of a plant you really liked....
I left the roots in, because I did not want to do damage to the neighboring plants in springtime bringing out the roots big as the ones of trees.
I went an got a new "Westerland", putting it near the old, familiar spot.
Next thing I know was fat, big fingers with rubired foilage on top reaching out of the ground on my first "Westerland" grave. I was so proud of my old girl !
now they are blooming side by side along my fence, making me happy just by looking at them. I can´t wait for them to reach maturity and call out for worshippers up and down the street.
I firmly belive, if every gardeners first rose would be a "Westerland" there would be more rose-lovers.
Reply #1 of 2 posted 3 AUG 12 by Lyn G

What you have experienced is similar to what I have had happen during my rose life. The roses continue to surprise me with their determination to live.

Reply #2 of 2 posted 24 MAY 13 by WarGar
I found 'Westerland' abandoned in a 1 gallon pot with about 1/2 gallon worth of soil, still alive but struggling. I potted it up into a very large pot (about 15 gallons) to see what would happen. It has now had about a year to settle in and is blooming like crazy. Like Bini says, people stop and want to know what this rose is! I am making cuttings to give to people and sharing stories like Bini's, which is all you need to know about any rose.
Discussion id : 62-239
most recent 25 FEB 12 HIDE POSTS
Initial post 25 FEB 12 by Jay-Jay
A very fertile seedparent!
Discussion id : 60-591
most recent 24 JAN 12 SHOW ALL
Initial post 5 JAN 12 by Landperson
I can't figure out why this rose is a "Shrub" when both it's parents are "Floribundas" and in fact it is often a climbing rose at that. I have torn my hair out about this issue before and am no closer to understanding or acceptance than ever. (rant over).
Reply #1 of 6 posted 5 JAN 12 by Rupert, Kim L.
VERY simple...the person who registered the rose chose to classify it as a shrub. It is too large to be considered a traditional floribunda. It can be used as a shorter climber, but if it were classified as a climber, it would be avoided because, in comparison to other successful climbers, it doesn't climb. The shrub category is a catch-all for things which don't really fit elsewhere. Knowing this, if you were the introducer of the rose, wouldn't you have called it a shrub?
Reply #2 of 6 posted 5 JAN 12 by Landperson
Nope, sorry. Everything I think I know about roses I gleaned from the Vintage Gardens Book of Roses where this rose is categorized as a Climbing Floribunda, so it will forever remain that way in my tiny little mind....
Reply #3 of 6 posted 5 JAN 12 by Jay-Jay
In my garden this rose grows and behaves like a shub and is in no way the climber, as it was sold to me.
It will be replaced by a real climber and the Westerland gets a place in our garden where it can behave/grow as it wants: like an arching shrub, whatever official type it might be.
At Kordes und Söhne (the breeder of this rose) it's also sold as a shrub (Strauchrose).
Reply #4 of 6 posted 5 JAN 12 by Landperson
Okay, I am convinced.
Thanks Jay-Jay.
Reply #5 of 6 posted 5 JAN 12 by Jay-Jay
You're welcome Susan.
Reply #6 of 6 posted 24 JAN 12 by Jay-Jay
My Westerland at the new spot under a big oak, after pruning. A bit out of balance, because it was earlier attached to the fence.
Discussion id : 57-910
most recent 14 OCT 11 HIDE POSTS
Initial post 13 OCT 11 by Byrnes, Robert L.
Completely defoliated in summer of 2011 after years of little blackspot. I shovel pruned it as it appears vertical disease resistance has broken down. Zone 6 NJ
Reply #1 of 3 posted 13 OCT 11 by Robert Neil Rippetoe
Nice to know and glad now I haven't utilized it as a breeder. It's been a relatively poor doer for me in the low desert regardless.
Reply #2 of 3 posted 14 OCT 11 by Byrnes, Robert L.
I've also found in the last year that Westerland has not passed on great disease resistance to F1. The only exception was using her with (1-72-1 x L83) seedling. There resistance was passed on...probably from L83 genes or the combo of Westerland and L83.
Reply #3 of 3 posted 14 OCT 11 by Robert Neil Rippetoe
Sounds like a great combo. Congrats.

It seems to be a great rose for most folks. It just hasn't been great for me in this climate.
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