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Initial post 16 MAR 13 by jedmar
This is not the Rugosa by Guillot, but 'Mercedes' by Geschwind.
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Reply #1 of 5 posted 16 MAR 13 by Jay-Jay
Isn't that rose Mercedes from Geschwind considered as extinct by Erich Unmuth and Andrea Buchmann. That's what I read in Das Rosenjahrbuch 2011. And is written in the description of Geschwind's Mercedes on HMF:
"According to Erich Unmuth, it is questionable whether 'Mercedes' in gardens and in commerce is the original Geschwind rose - see References."
And in one of the references: "(from: Möller’s Deutsche Gärtner-Zeitung 1886, p. 66-67)
…Rud. Geschwind sent us last autumn 13 different climbers under the name „Hungarian Climbers“ to bring into commerce and thus have them tested by roselovers…
Mercedes: Variety of de la Grifferaie, with a similar habit and foliage. Medium size blooms, flat cup form, flesh-pink-lilac, very floriferous, in many clusters, hardy."
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Reply #2 of 5 posted 16 MAR 13 by Meetza
This is the plant received from Zvolen as a Guillot Rugosa Mercedes. I received another one Mercedes also from Zvolen as a Multiflora Hybrid. Is there any place where the "real" Mercedes by Guillot can be found ?
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Reply #4 of 5 posted 18 MAR 13 by Vladimír Ježovič
Well, it seems we have one rose under two "names".
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Reply #5 of 5 posted 18 MAR 13 by jedmar
Would you confirm that you have the "Geschwind"-Mercedes?
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Reply #6 of 5 posted 20 MAR 13 by Vladimír Ježovič
We did a verification identity of Geschwind´s roses in arboretum a few years ago.
´Mercedes´ came as identical. It´s similar to the 'De la Grifferaie'. Here:
http://www.helpmefind.com/rose/l.php?l=21.140114 with more full flowers.
Multiflora suggests numerous inflorescences, short sepals, long stem flowers with glands; partially bent out stipules and hairy leaf stalk.
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