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New Dawn  rose photo courtesy of member happymaryellen
Discussion id : 113-039
most recent 28 SEP 18 SHOW ALL
Initial post 13 SEP 18 by Andrew from Dolton
Hello Maryellen,
Does your 'New Dawn' show any signs of a second flush this year?
Regards, Andrew.
Reply #1 of 9 posted 13 SEP 18 by happymaryellen
No darnit....After reading so many people having the same problem I think I’m gonna take it out this winter I wanted to repeat with her on this fence. I guess it’s a live and learn right?
Reply #2 of 9 posted 13 SEP 18 by Marlorena
No luck then Andrew... I'm feeling a whole lot better that it was nothing to do with me... thanks for asking around here...
Reply #3 of 9 posted 13 SEP 18 by Andrew from Dolton
Thanks Maryellen. My plant only stopped repeating when I moved it and now it competes with a cut leafed elder. Maybe it needs more food and moisture to flower well although it has made some very long growths. Interesting to look at other pictures of 'New Dawn' grown in warmer countries. The flowers are quite a bit pinker than mine which looks white at a distance, the same colour as 'Madame Alfred Carrière'.
Marlorena, there was a light ground frost in my garden this morning.
Reply #4 of 9 posted 13 SEP 18 by Marlorena
Andrew, I wondered if you might have had one because I know you're in a pocket there...... it dropped to 5C here last night... I've had the heating on...
Reply #5 of 9 posted 13 SEP 18 by Andrew from Dolton
I knew we were in for a cold night yesterday evening because the moors, about 20KM away, were absolutely crystal clear and the sky rich blue.
Reply #7 of 9 posted 28 SEP 18 by Andrew from Dolton
Just for your information, every night so far this week there have been frosts. Tuesday was the worst with a glass of water left out over night almost a chunk of solid ice and nasturtium leaves reduced to old dish rags. And not just confined to my garden, collecting my partner from work each morning I need to scrape the car and there was frost in all the fields, Hatherleigh cricket pitch was completely white and Dartmoor an island poking out from a misty shroud. I now light a fire every evening. These misty mornings are followed by the most glorious blue skied sunny days with a temperature yesterday of 20C, such a precious bonus at this time of year. I wouldn't change my climate for all the tea (roses) in China.
Reply #8 of 9 posted 28 SEP 18 by Marlorena
We had a slight frost the other night Andrew, and maybe again tonight... you are obviously in quite a frost pocket there... yes I too appreciate changeable seasons... 'Mme. Antoine Mari' is a first class Tea rose for me, it competes with anything I've got, or have had... but probably a rarity amongst this class for us... but I know what you mean...
I had a 'Nerine' open today, about a month early...
Reply #9 of 9 posted 28 SEP 18 by Lavenderlace
Andrew, our heat index was near 100 F a few days ago and we just received record rain again. A "cold" front has moved through and we've cooled off a bit but I'm sure that you would find it laughable to call it cool! In any case, all the New Dawns remain without buds.
Reply #6 of 9 posted 13 SEP 18 by Lavenderlace
Yes, thanks Andrew for asking around! I can't believe that I have so many of them now with what appears to be no hope.

There is a lady in Ohio who says hers is quite old, like 80 years, and it reblooms. So based on hers, HMF ratings, and the Heirloom website, I was hopeful. But now I'm wondering, because of the age, what if she doesn't have ND after all? I believe that she's younger than eighty!
Discussion id : 113-048
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Initial post 13 SEP 18 by happymaryellen
End it did not bloom again. Until spring of 2018. And it has not bloomed except for a few sporadic blooms. Are rose society has a rose garden in the Marin Art and Garden Center, it seems to be the same. So how frustrating it is to nurse something along for so long to find out it’s only going to be a once bloomer. How disappointing. I think I’m going to change it out with renee this winter.
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