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Nippstress' Nebraska Roses
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30 MAY 17 by
 Nastarana
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Nipstress, are you still growing 'Antico Amore'? How well did it survive the winter for you? I notice that Tatiana in Moscow also has it. Can you recommend this rose for cold zone growers?
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30 MAY 17 by
Nippstress
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Hi Nastarana
Mine survived the winter OK, but I do have mine in a zone 6 pocket of my yard. As I recall, it didn't overwinter for me well in a typical zone 5 spot, but that's part shade and it might have affected hardiness. I remember a friend in Omaha has recommended that and she has typical zone 5 locations. I'd put its hardiness in the zone 5/6 range - not robustly hardy in zone 5 but worth a try. So far mine has stayed short but it's only coming into its third year.
Cynthia
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19 DEC 16 by
Nastarana
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Nipstress, do you still grow the rose 'Wimi', and what is your experience with it? I am a fan of the roses of Matthias Tantau, Jr. Some of his roses, such as 'Lampion' and 'Cinnabar' have done quite well for me, while others are perhaps not suitable for zone 5 conditions.
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19 DEC 16 by
Nippstress
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Hi Nastarana
My Wimi died in a typical zone 5 spot, so I'm replacing it this year from Rogue Valley to put in my virtual zone 6 spot. Often I'll find that is enough to get marginally hardy roses through the winter. I doubt it's zone 5 hardy but it might be zone 6 hardy, though unlikely to be robust. I love the Tantau roses too so I make every effort when they have one like this where the colors are so lovely.
Cynthia
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20 DEC 16 by
Nastarana
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Thank you for your response. You experience is about what I had feared. I have a spot in front of a south facing wall where I might be able to shoehorn in 'Wimi'. Did he get very big for you?
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20 DEC 16 by
Nippstress
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Given that he was marginally hardy to start with I don't recall that he was much bigger than a foot or two. Front of the border and highly protected is best I think.
Cynthia
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12 OCT 16 by
StrawChicago heavy clay zone 5
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I'm in zone 5a, Versigny died on me after 2 winters, perhaps I didn't dig deep enough for drainage .. I have heavy clay. Would like to know the winter-survival in your zone 5b of these roses, before I buy them from Roses Unlimited: Antico, Bela di Tode, Etrusca, and Versigny.
Thanks for any info., much appreciated.
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12 OCT 16 by
Nippstress
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Hi Strawberry Hill:
My experience with Versigny mirrors yours, in that I had mine in my zone 6 pocket of my yard and it lasted about 3 or 4 years before dying one winter. I think this one is only marginally hardy in zone 5 and needs heavy winter protection to do well. It's gorgeous though.
So far, Antico Amore has survived with more cane over the winter in the same zone 6 pocket, so I'd rate its hardiness a bit better. It didn't overwinter in part sun in an average spot in the yard, so it's not entirely robust in zone 5. Etrusca is the smallest of the bunch and also in the zone 6 pocket, and I think I'm pushing its limits. Bela di Todi I only tried once and it didn't overwinter, but I have planted it again and can keep you posted.
Bottom line is that Antico Amore is probably the strongest of the bunch you list, but all are in need of some winter protection to do well in our zones.
Cynthia
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12 OCT 16 by
StrawChicago heavy clay zone 5
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Thank you Cynthia, for the info., much appreciated. Versigny has the best fruity scent ever, Crown Princess Mag. has a slightly less scent, but is vigorous after 5 winters. This year I'll play it safe and order more Austin roses, I'm debating whether to get Young Lycidas as own-root or grafted from Austin Catalog. Its leaves are wrinkled (similar to Sharifa Asma) ... and Sharifa is very tiny as own-root !!
Sonia Rykiel died last winter, after 5 years .. but that was my fault of emptying my rain barrel right before freezing. University of Vermont stated that plants survive winter better on the dry side. This past Dec. we had tons of rain, then freezing temp which killed trees and knock-outs in my zone 5a. I'll order Sonia Rykiel again, but will dig deep at 2.5 feet for drainage. Firefighter as own-root is another iffy .. that survived 5 winters, but died in a dry-spring (I didn't winter-protect). Two Double-Delight died as own-roots, same with Pink Peace (own-root) .. so I bought Grafted-on-Dr.Huey, and they survived winter easily.
I appreciate any info.. on Young Lycidas as own-root or grafted for zone 5a ?? Barcelona survived winter easily (thanks to your recommendation). Are there fragrant roses that you would recommend for zone 5a as own-roots? Thanks.
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