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"Range View Pink Tea" rose Reviews & Comments
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I am wondering if "Range View Pink Tea" might be 'Belle Emilie' which was on a circa 1860 Evandale Nursery catalogue (Evandale Nursery was within 1km of the family property where the rose was found growing). Also previously listed on this listing was 'Devoniensis' which was also found on this property 100ks NE of Adelaide, South Australia.
I also found the following on Trove on 'Belle Emilie': https://webarchive.nla.gov.au/awa/20131211003619/http://pandora.nla.gov.au/pan/122951/20131211-0821/hortuscamden.com/plants/print/rosa-belle-emilie.html
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'Belle Emilie' was certainly available from South Australian nurseries Pat. I have added a couple of more references.
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Thank you so much Patricia. I am getting kind of excited that this might be its name.
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I am too. It certainly sounds right so far.
I have just added a photo of "Mystery Cream Tea" in my garden today. Not half as vigorous as yours but I am so happy to have it. It is feminine and delicate and possibly so very old.
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Some people have noted a likeness to Devoniensis 1838. I don’t see that. For me ‘Devoniensis is flat, with many pleated petals.
I see a likeness to the nodding rose which came as “Agnes Smith” from Araluen in 2004. This rose has paled from pink to cream in a more sunny position. However there is still more pink in it than in “Mystery Cream Tea” I think the prickles of "Agnes Smith" are smaller too. See my “Agnes Smith” photo 460-000a
[Later edit - I have just realised that in 2017 I planted another bush of “Agnes Smith” from Araluen, right next door to “Mystery Cream Tea”.]
I also see a likeness in the bush (but not the bloom) of the fragile ‘Rival de Paestum’ 1839
I note ‘Belle Emilie’ was 1829..
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I'm awake too early, but 'Innocente Pirola' was a popular rose that was sometimes compared to 'Devoniensis'... only, was it popular in Oz?
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Innocent and feminine it ain't, with those prickles.
I've received what I think is this rose as Niphetos, but it isn't that either.
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Ha! So not 'IP', then...
How does it compare to 'Catherine Mermet' and her sports?
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Personally I feel that the rose is an earlier rose than Devoniensis. Why? It is lighter weight and bush overall, branches thinner, petal substance is thinner and it does not have the more ordered arrangement of flower form and the overall impression is earlier in development.
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Wouldn't it be loverly if 'La Sylphide' isn't actually extinct? Another oldie that might deserve a look-see is 'Elise Sauvage'.
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'Innocente Pirola' was in several Australian Rose Catalogues and gardens and after reading references and seeing photos on HMF I am wondering.
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Pat, I take it that you have seen the refs in COMMENTS. I’ll move them soon. (I am in my summer regime of out there at first light and in the cool. I am just in for a breakfast break)
Ellen Perman did another painting of ‘Innocente Pirola’ and it seems rather too upright. Search the internet for
innocent Pirola Ellen Perman
and you should find it. The URL was one of those impossibly long ones.
There is also something in the refs about the bud unscrolling,
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Comparison photos of "Range View Pink Tea" and 'Devoniensis' added today.
Plus a bush photo
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