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most recent 17 APR 20 HIDE POSTS
 
Initial post 28 DEC 19 by Patricia Routley
Responding further to Petera’s photo of Golden Emblem’
Billy’s 1926 illustration; Simon Voorwinde’s photo of his bush ‘Golden Emblem’ (provenance Ladybird Roses); and Margaret’s comments on the climber ‘Golden Emblem Climbing’ mentioned red prickles.

It seems the provenance of your bush ‘Golden Emblem’ would have been
?-1; Ladybird Roses-2; Ruston’s-3; and you would be caretaker no. 4.

Simon Voorwinde would have the same clone and his provenance would be
?-1; Ladybird Roses-2; Simon Voorwinde-3. His photo of the bush ‘Golden Emblem’ shows red thorns.

It might be good to have bud photos as the references for the bush ‘Golden Emblem’ say:
1926-48 with crimson on the buds
1928-10 striped with crimson on the outer petals.
1936-237 buds, shaded red and flecked
1993-214 Bud yellow, splashed and shaded red.
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Reply #1 of 6 posted 28 DEC 19 by petera
There is only a trace of pink on the outsides of the current buds but the heat has wrecked them. Pictures might have to wait for better weather in the autumn, provided this place does not burn too. I did get my current plant from John N.

About 6 years ago from Thomas's I got McGredy's Yellow labelled Golden Emblem. I still have that plant but it is not all that strong a grower and suffered badly in last years heat.
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Reply #2 of 6 posted 28 DEC 19 by Margaret Furness
Provenance of the bush is ?-1; Ladybird Roses -2; Simon Voorwinde - 3; Bruce Treloar - 4; Rustons - 5; John N - 6; Petera - 7. Old roses travel.
Good to hear that John got the climber going too.
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Reply #3 of 6 posted 29 DEC 19 by HubertG
Sir Arthur Streeton painted a picture of a vase of 'Golden Emblem' in 1934. There is certainly a pink flush on the flowers. There are a few copies online, but the colour rendition varies between them so I'm not sure which to upload.
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Reply #4 of 6 posted 29 DEC 19 by petera
Best I could find http://www.artnet.com/artists/arthur-streeton/roses-golden-emblem-hQMJE07wJ3G2LhIruYDaUg2

Unfortunately Streeton was an impressionist.
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Reply #5 of 6 posted 29 DEC 19 by HubertG
Thanks petera, although I had already uploaded a copy. Streeton was mainly known for his landscapes but he was an excellent flower painter too in my opiniion. I was looking at his painting of 'Lady Hillingdon' when I was searching for his 'Golden Emblem' and recognised it instantly from the colour and form wihout knowing what it was. His style may have been somewhat impressionistic but I think he captures the essence of the blooms very accurately. He painted 'La France' too.
Edit: I just added his 'Lady Hillingdon' for comparison. He even paints the touches of crimson you sometimes see on some LH buds. I think the colour is very accurate, so I assume that his 'Golden Emblem' is well-done colour-wise too.
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Reply #6 of 6 posted 17 APR 20 by petera
I have just uploaded two photos I took today, 17 April 2020. The buds have red on them dentical to your Armstrong's catalogue picture, and the prickles are now red, unlike earlier in the season. I concede, it's 'Golden Emblem'! The autumn flowers are beautifully coloured.
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