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'Isabella Sprunt' rose Reviews & Comments
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most recent 10 FEB 21 HIDE POSTS
 
Initial post 28 DEC 20 by digdahlias
Trying to identify a couple yellow teas I purchased several years ago. I believe I have Isabella Sprunt. My blooms ball after a very heavy rain. Do yours? If not, ideas? Lovely plant and superb flowers.
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Reply #1 of 18 posted 29 DEC 20 by Patricia Routley
I don’t think my ‘Isabella Sprunt’ balls at all.
You might like to take a look at the Australian foundling “Jane Cranston” for some name clues in the main page and Members Comments.
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Reply #2 of 18 posted 29 DEC 20 by HubertG
'Alexander Hill Gray', although more double, is a similar colour to 'Isabella Sprunt' and it balls. Maybe check that variety out as well.
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Reply #3 of 18 posted 29 DEC 20 by Margaret Furness
I don't think "Jane Cranston" and Isabella Sprunt have enough petals to ball much.
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Reply #4 of 18 posted 29 DEC 20 by digdahlias
It must be Alexander Hill Gray then. That was one of the other varieties I was considering. Many thanks.
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Reply #5 of 18 posted 29 DEC 20 by HubertG
Digdahlias, is it possible to post photos of your mystery rose? It might be something else altogether.
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Reply #6 of 18 posted 30 DEC 20 by digdahlias
I had two little blooms - the rest of them balled the other day after a rainstorm. Here’s the best image I could get this evening.
Plants I was looking at a few years ago include Alexander Hill Grey, Blumenschmidt, Isabella Sprunt among others. I have another yellow tea that doesn’t ball - I’ll post that pic later so not to confuse anything.
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Reply #8 of 18 posted 30 DEC 20 by Margaret Furness
It would be nice to have side views of the receptacle (the bit under the bud) and the prickles, for both roses. It might be worth looking at Souvenir de Pierre Notting for this one - it can ball. The other one is pretty.
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Reply #10 of 18 posted 31 DEC 20 by digdahlias
Hopefully I’ve captured more info in this photo.
Thank you to everyone for your input.
Stacey
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Reply #11 of 18 posted 9 FEB 21 by Ambroise Paré
I think it is ’ Étoile de Lyon’ or maybe ’ Perle des Jardins ’
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Reply #12 of 18 posted 10 FEB 21 by Patricia Routley
The receptacle of ‘Etoile de Lyon’ in the book Tea Roses, page 99, is much more straight-sided than digdahlias’ photo.
‘Perle des Jardins’ is a notorious baller.
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Reply #13 of 18 posted 10 FEB 21 by digdahlias
It very well may be Perle des Jardin. That was one I was considering when I ordered this batch of roses several years ago.
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Reply #14 of 18 posted 10 FEB 21 by Ambroise Paré
Since we are here, can i Ask if ’Isabella Sprunt ’ can get more similar in colour to Safrano, in some specific metereological situations, or it is always yellowish? Thanks
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Reply #15 of 18 posted 10 FEB 21 by billy teabag
In hot weather, both Safrano and Isabella Sprunt can be very pale, with their colours washed out, but in cooler weather, their individual colours intensify.
If your Isabella Sprunt is producing blooms in shades of buff or apricot, it may be showing a reversion to Safrano. If you have access to Tea Roses. Old Roses for Warm Gardens, there is a photo of this on page 181.
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Reply #17 of 18 posted 10 FEB 21 by Ambroise Paré
The rose i m not sure it is ’ Isabella Sprunt’ it is in
Boccanegra , an old plant . Growth is identical to
’ Safrano’ and the colour is identical to ’Isabella’ in every season, except in may. Where colours tend to be more similar to ’ Safrano ’ . Experience have told me to be careful with teas and pictures, especially if grown in different climates .Are they Other mutations of Safrano apart from ’Isabella ’thanks
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Reply #7 of 18 posted 30 DEC 20 by digdahlias
This is my other mystery tea that doesn’t ball. Blooms are lighter and more lemon yellow that’s the other.
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Reply #16 of 18 posted 10 FEB 21 by billy teabag
This rose looks very much like Isabella Sprunt.
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Reply #18 of 18 posted 10 FEB 21 by Ambroise Paré
I’ m not really convinced this one which does not ball is ‘ Isabella ‘ it looks more like a seedling with Safrano ,by looking at the shape of the petals and of the leaves. The influence of ‘Safrano ‘ is evident, but it looks more like a seedling
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Reply #9 of 18 posted 30 DEC 20 by billy teabag
Alexander Hill Gray is a thornless rose, so it's a useful feature to rule this variety in or out as a contender.
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