HelpMeFind Roses, Clematis and Peonies
Roses, Clematis and Peonies
and everything gardening related.
DescriptionPhotosLineageAwardsReferencesMember RatingsMember CommentsMember JournalsCuttingsGardensBuy From 
'Excellenz von Schubert' rose Reviews & Comments
Discussion id : 44-980
most recent 16 OCT 22 HIDE POSTS
 
Initial post 20 MAY 10 by roses257
Almost everything you say about a rose called Excellenz von Schubert is wrong! It is a purple Hybrid Musk, with a delicious heavy scent, not a deep pink Polyantha with no to mild fragrance. Gregg Lowery says: Long clusters of small, full, grape-purple to crimson flowers, sweetly scented, on a plant of moderate growth with burnished, olive-green foliage. A Lambertina of exceptional quality; the bright panicles of bloom make quite a show in the garden. He gives it four r's for repeat bloom, and three f's for fragrance, and lists it among the Hybrid Musks.
REPLY
Reply #1 of 11 posted 20 MAY 10 by Margaret Furness
See the comments already on the page for this rose - there seem to be two roses using the name. Does the purple one set hips? Does the pink one?
REPLY
Reply #2 of 11 posted 20 MAY 10 by roses257
I love the flowers so much that I never let mine set hips. Haven't seen the pink one.
REPLY
Reply #3 of 11 posted 20 MAY 10 by Cass
I don't recall any hips. I don't deadhead.
REPLY
Reply #7 of 11 posted 21 MAY 10 by Margaret Furness
Cass, which one do you have? There are no descendants listed for Excellenz von Schubert; plenty for Gartendirektor Otto Linne.
REPLY
Reply #8 of 11 posted 21 MAY 10 by Cass
I grow both, Margaret. I have 4 plants of the mauvey, scented, red-caned rose that has pompon-type blooms (sold as EVS). I have only one plant of the pink rose that grows like a floribunda (sold as GOL).
REPLY
Reply #9 of 11 posted 16 OCT 22 by RoseAddict_NorthTX
Would you say that EVS has more cupped blooms as opposed to GOL that never has cupped but more flat? I am trying to figure out what I have, the blooms don’t really look like EVS (are not cupped) and are definitely pink, not mauve/purple or lilac. It’s hard to figure out from pics of these two since it seems like both EVS and GOL have both roses mixed up in pics (I read the discussion on the fact that some nurseries sell them as the other). I bought mine at Antique Rose Emporium if that helps.
REPLY
Reply #10 of 11 posted 16 OCT 22 by jedmar
I have added some photos of EVS and GOL as they are sold in Europe. The blooms of EVS are mauve-pink, full, rounded, in medium-sized clusters. GOL's blooms are pink, double, in large clusters, which are sometimes pyramidal.
REPLY
Reply #11 of 11 posted 16 OCT 22 by RoseAddict_NorthTX
Thank you for adding the photos. I think mine is GOL (not EVS), don’t you think (pic posted)?
REPLY
Reply #4 of 11 posted 20 MAY 10 by jedmar
All the early sources agree on 'Excellenz von Schubert' being a carmine-pink rose. This means that the identification by Vintage gardens is incorrect.
REPLY
Reply #5 of 11 posted 20 MAY 10 by roses257
Could you please cite some of those "early sources"? Thanks
REPLY
Reply #6 of 11 posted 21 MAY 10 by RoseBlush
Roses257............

Just go to the rose page and click on the REFERENCES tab. You will find several references that site both color and class for the rose.

Lyn
REPLY
© 2024 HelpMeFind.com