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Initial post yesterday by Patricia Routley
Who was the breeder - Hansen or Whitman Cross? See references.
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Reply #1 of 2 posted yesterday by jedmar
Neils Hansen was the gardener of Whitman Cross in Chevy Chase. It seems that this rose was registered from the beginning as a cultivar of Hansen.
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Reply #2 of 2 posted yesterday by Patricia Routley
Thanks Jedmar.
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Initial post 8 days ago by Bug_girl
This author cites Laffay as the breeder.
Pearson's Encyclopedia of Roses, (1956) pg. 172

Cardinal de Richelieu (R. gallica hybrid)
Rich velvety-purple blooms, large and with plenty of petals. Fragrant. Makes a strong, bushy plant. (Laffay, 1840.)
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Reply #1 of 2 posted 7 days ago by jedmar
Yes, 20th century authors state Laffay 1840, however, the earliest references from the 19th century attribute it to Parmentier. François Joyaux in "La Rose de France" also has Parmentier as the breeder. We have added this reference with the explanation of the error.
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Reply #2 of 2 posted 4 days ago by Bug_girl
Thanks!
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Initial post 6 days ago by flodur
The rose was not dedicated to Heinrich Ludolph Wendland (1792-1869). He died when Wilhelm Kordes was 4 years old, long before Kordes was founded in 1887. Wilhelm Kordes named the rose after a senior employee of the Späth nursery in Berlin, "an unforgettable friend". (Information from Wikipedia). But there was also a Heinrich Wendland in Kiel (close to Kordes), owner of the "Forstecker Baumschule".
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Reply #1 of 1 posted 6 days ago by jedmar
Thank you, note corrected.
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Initial post 7 days ago by Robert Neil Rippetoe
Beautiful!

I'm surprised this one isn't more common and popular.
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Reply #1 of 2 posted 7 days ago by Lee H.
Perhaps a climbing rose has a smaller consumer market?

Also, based on parentage, I am somewhat doubtful of 2b hardiness, but perhaps there is some rugosa hiding in there.
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Reply #2 of 2 posted 7 days ago by jedmar
2b was incorrect, modified it to 5b as per the reference.
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