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Michael Garhart
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Initial post 29 SEP 13 by Michael Garhart
I really tried to like this rose, but it never worked out. It has a lot of the flaws of the early 1900s orange polyanthas, which is that the plant is consistently in mildew, and the color fades rapidly to a really trashy shade of off-pink. For landscape roses, Fire Meidiland is an orange hint of scarlet, is also smaller scale, and it does not mildew here. Flower Carpet Coral is also okay, but it is single and very airy, which doesn't always give the full effect in landscape roses.
Reply #1 of 2 posted 4 days ago by goncmg
Its a cold, windy night here in Charleston and I'm poring over roses on HMF. I love your commentary, Michael. I lol for real with the "trashy pink" mentioned here.
Reply #2 of 2 posted 4 days ago by Michael Garhart
hah, thanks.

I caught an error, too. I meant Ruby Meidiland :D I still have Ruby M., too, although the HMF pics dont do it justice.
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Initial post 6 days ago by Michael Garhart
Reply #1 of 1 posted 5 days ago by Patricia Routley
Thank you Michael
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Initial post 9 DEC 09 by John Moody
First year bush was very impressive. The bush has moderate green foliage that is of excellent size compared to the blooms and it stays clean of blackspot and powdery mildew so far. It grew rather vigorously to about 4 1/2' tall and had plenty of canes to produce lots of blooms on.
The blooms start off as very elegant buds and slowly open to good high centered form of a wonderful medium apricot color that holds well and doesn't fade as the bloom ages. The blooms are good sized and have good substance to the petal so they hold well on the bush or when cut. The fragrance is fruity and light but very definitely there and pleasing to the senses.
I think this rose will make a fine garden rose for it's ease of care and disease resistance as well of it's vigorous growth and amount of bloom and speed of rebloom. The form and holding power will also make it enticing to the exhibitor as well. It should hold it's own on the head table with some of the best exhibition HT's out there today.
I highly recommend this to any rosarian as they will enjoy it immensely.
UPDATE 9/2010--I need to add a comment or two about this rose. It made it through a very cold and nasty winter here in 2009/2010 and broke dormancy quite early and easily in Spring 2010. The nice wet Spring brought on lots of very beautiful large apricot blooms that were quite stunning. However, in June the temperatures turned unseasonably warm and July and July, August, and beginning of September were blistering hot with little rain and high humidity. This rose and many others really suffered through the heat. It almost completely defoliated and completely stopped blooming because of the heat even though I continued to keep my roses watered with my drip irrigation systems that I have installed on all my rose beds. We finally had a break from the heat and some much needed rain and the bush immediately started re-foliating quickly and putting on new flowers that were smallish at first but seem to be gaining in size and petal density. SO, I would have to say this rose is definitely not heat tolerant and wouldn't recommend it to rosarians who live where very hot and dry summers are the norm. I think they would be very disappointed with the performance during those very hot and dry months. Just my opinion from my experiences.....
ANOTHER UPDATE 10/22/2010----Just to let all know, the bus has really rebounded quickly since the Fall season weather has cooled and we have had some much needed rain. The bush has really added foliage that is very beautiful and the blooms are coming back by the dozens and they are once again stunning and the repeat is super quick so I am getting lots of them. The form and color are beautiful and they are quite large. The foliage on the bottom of the bush is still quite thin so it has "bare knees" but from 1/2 way up it looks pretty normal and the medium green foliage is very healthy and shiny of good size and so far shows no blackspot or powdery mildew.
Still, I just don't think this rose would be a very good rose for the deep south, southwest areas like Arizona and California, and the hot southeastern states as well. I don't think the heat agrees with this bush at all. The damp wet weather we had for an entire week had all positive effects on the rose. The blooms had no trouble opening with no balling or bullnossing at all and no fungal disease.
I hope this helps other rosarians when deciding whether or not to purchase this rose for their part of the country.
Reply #1 of 4 posted 22 JUN 10 by evie
How does it compare to Sunset celebration?
Reply #2 of 4 posted 17 FEB 15 by Michael Garhart
From my personal experience, Sunset Celebration is cleaner, more compact, more recurrent, and better well-behaved as a plant. Over the Moon is gorgeous, but its a huge rose on a fat plant. If you are going for something in that size range, one may as well go for Marilyn Monroe and count the thorns as an acceptable fault. Which reminds me, Sunset Celebration has a touch of salmon tone to it, whereas OtM and MM generally do not.
Reply #3 of 4 posted 6 days ago by mamabotanica
How "fat" is this rose? I want to place it in a narrow-ish bed. The other roses i plan for that bed are listed at 3 ft wide. I can't find any measure of how wide this one grows.
Reply #4 of 4 posted 6 days ago by Michael Garhart
Like Ingrid Bergman, Elle, and similar in width, but slightly taller.

The patent says 58cm at width, but my experience is much wider than that. They describe a more linear plant, but it was much wider than 2' when I grew it here in the Pac. NW.

This was from Weeks Roses, so it was grafted.
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Initial post 9 days ago by Michael Garhart
"`KORtuberlou` is a seedling selection which resulted from the controlled pollination of Rosa hybrida `KORquelda` (U.S. Plant Pat. No. 17,048), the seed parent, and with an unnamed Rosa hybrida seedling (unpatented) developed and owned by the same inventor, the pollen parent, during the summer of 2002." -PP29,698
Reply #1 of 1 posted 9 days ago by Patricia Routley
Thank you Michael. Added.
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