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Initial post 10 days ago by Margaret Furness
It is definitely not Cl Perle d'Or.

From Leonie K: It looks very much like 'Prosperity'. After watching it for some time I am convinced that it is different as the bunches of blooms are larger and the canes are longer and it is more of a climber than 'Prosperity'. However it is very similar.

From Bonita: on the Bunnings (hardware chain) label it is described as a late 19th Century rose. It has a little pink bud and the blooms form a cluster and start off as cream and then become a very white star shaped bloom.
Reply #1 of 4 posted 9 days ago by Patricia Routley
Following a vague memory, I have searched my computer and found that Ron (and Hazel) Treloar in Queensland, rang me on March 1, 2002 and was chasing information on 'Prosperity' 1919. He said: "At a house ‘Galgowan’ on the Darling Downs, which is being restored (and last lived in in 1927) there is a rose which someone has identified as ‘Prosperity’."

I wonder if Ron and Hazel have come to any conclusion over the years and if their foundling was the same as 'Pearl Dior'.

It would really help if member Bonita could add that Bunnings label as a photo. There may be distinguishing code that might identify the distributor (who sold the rose to Bunnings).
Reply #2 of 4 posted today by jedmar
Here was a discussion of "Perle Dior" in 2006:
Reply #3 of 4 posted today by Patricia Routley
Thanks Jedmar. i had found that one and have reassigned Lulu’s photo of ‘Pearl Dior’ into this file.
I wonder if anyone can help on advice about reading the Plant Label number 9 337085 000443 on the back of the label?
Reply #4 of 4 posted today by Michael Garhart
It looks super pretty. I had considered it could be Alister Stella Grey for a second, but its definitely not on a closer inspection.

Maybe this is a sport of a polyantha? It looks to have super cute and round blooms.
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Initial post 24 MAY 07 by Unregistered Guest
Is rosa rugosa "Monte Casino" a "true red" rose or "pink?" Please respond as I am finding it difficult to decipher the color.
Reply #1 of 1 posted yesterday by Michael Garhart
looks like hybrid perpetual red, which is more of a dark violet in sun, light red in cool weather.

only a very few rugosa are true red. Like Linda Campbell.
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Initial post 2 days ago by SoCal Coastal Rosarian
It has been the dream of hybridizers to incorporate the magical red eye of Hulthemia persica, native to Iran, Afghanistan, and Turkestan, into the modern rose. I believe that with the introduction of Eyeconic Mango Lemonade, hybridized by James Sproul and classified as a floribunda, the goal has been largely achieved. EML has virtually all of that attributes of the modern rose with the addition of the magical red eye. The blooms of EML are disposed singly and in clusters. The individual blooms are quite large, up to 3.5 inches in diameter. Bud form is superb. The color, a non fading symphony of rainbow hues surrounding the vermillion eye, is outstanding. The blooms possess remarkable substance, a feature lacking in many of the Hulthemia persica hybrids. Stamen quality is quite good, a feature of particular importance to exhibitors. The blooms open slowly and last a long time. To top it all there is a mild fruity fragrance. The plant is attractive, disciplined, and grows well. Resistance to powdery mildew and rust appears to be good if not excellent. I did notice a touch of anthracnose as we are experiencing a wet winter in California. Due to it's absence here I cannot comment on black spot. There is reason to believe that EML is a breakthrough rose, something we rarely experience and is a source of great excitement and joy. In communicating with Dr. Sproul he has indicated that there are some "nice" red eyed roses in his pipeline. I can realistically surmise that the future may bring us red eyed hybrid teas, grandifloras, climbers, and perhaps miniatures and minifloras as good as EML!
Reply #1 of 3 posted 2 days ago by Michael Garhart
I consider the line minifloras, because they encompass all of the traits. They're simply wide and short instead of narrow, but they have all of the genetic and phenotypic traits of a miniflora. Simply not an exhibition style one or marketed as one. Not a huge difference between the plant style of my 'Power Point' and the original 'Eyeconic' (Lemonade) we still have at the farm house.
Reply #2 of 3 posted 2 days ago by SoCal Coastal Rosarian
Your point is well taken. As you know there are 7 roses in the Eyeconic series. Other than Eyeconic Mango Lemonade I am familiar only with Eyeconic Lemonade. The plant as I recall was rather small and the blooms averaged about 2 inches in diameter. In contrast I expect my plant of Eyeconic Mango Lemonade to reach 3.5 to 4 feet in height and just as wide. The blooms of EML measure up to 3.5 inches in diameter, too large for a miniflora. It thus appears that EML could easily be classified as a typical floribunda.
Reply #3 of 3 posted 2 days ago by Michael Garhart
huh, interesting!
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Initial post 9 days ago by Michael Garhart
The name confuses me so much.
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