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Initial post 25 AUG 16 by Michael Garhart
lol, this name makes me so sad!

Looks like Scarlet Meidiland has been good in a lot of hybrids! I am loving Ruby Meidiland a lot in the garden.
Reply #1 of 5 posted 26 AUG 16 by Nastarana
I love the foliage in these pictures.

How is disease resistance?
Reply #2 of 5 posted 10 SEP 16 by Paul G. Olsen
Disease resistance seems to be very good. However, this cultivar appears to lack cold hardiness in a Zone 3 climate, which one would expect from its genetics. It's not as cold hardy, for example, as 'Campfire'.
Reply #3 of 5 posted 27 MAR 17 by Fadi
I live in Ottawa zone 5b
I planted Never Alone in September 2016. In November , it was black spotted badly.
I checked today (27th March) my rose. There are many canes dieback despite being covered with several feet of snow during the winter. The good thing is i can see new thin green canes emerging from the ground. it seems that this rose is not cane hardy here in zone 5
Reply #4 of 5 posted today by Michael Garhart
Now that Ive had it for a bit, I can say this. The spring/fall disease resistance is poor. Its quite susceptible to moderate temps w/ damp weather. I am not sure if its downy, cercospora, and/or anthracnose. The 3 of them differ by cultivar, and ifs there's a lot its like good luck ID'ing that without staring and leaflets for way too long (I got other things to do lol). The summer health is good. The plant shape is good. The rebloom is quite good. The color is good but the flowers do not like the rain one bit.

Its parent, Yellow Submarine, is 10' away and bothered by none of these things.
Reply #5 of 5 posted today by Robert Neil Rippetoe
I had high hopes for this one but never even kept it long enough to use it for breeding purposes.

I assumed it didn't care for the climate here in the low desert, which I'm sure is true.

This said other hardy roses do quite well, and this one was a disappointment.
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Initial post 26 DEC by Michael Garhart
huh interesting. Foliage in pics looks a lot like the foliage of 'Sheer Magic'
Reply #1 of 2 posted 3 days ago by Matt's Northwest Florida Garden
Might be related, I grow both but Nora Virginia really has less thorns and is a taller plant
Reply #2 of 2 posted 3 days ago by Michael Garhart
We'll never really know. JP worse at displaying records now than they were before, and that's not saying much lol.
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Initial post 31 DEC by Michael Garhart
This is likely 'Women's Celebration', but J/P didnt make it clear. They refer to it as the "Women's Celebration Contest Winning Essay" winner.

The html is also titled womens-celebration

J/P: making things confusing since 1200 B.C.
Reply #1 of 4 posted 2 JAN by Rupert, Kim L.
It's their job and honestly about the only one they have remained decent at in the past decade.
Reply #2 of 4 posted 2 JAN by Michael Garhart
*snort* :]
Reply #4 of 4 posted 3 days ago by Matt's Northwest Florida Garden
I've been very pleased with the selection and plants from J&P in 2019 and 2020. Seems like they've vastly improved. I did get 2 mislabeled roses but they promptly gave me a store credit, and I have not lost any plants from their bareroot or container selections, even the ones I received in May 2019 from their $10 end of season sale (I live in Florida)
Reply #3 of 4 posted 2 JAN by jedmar
The number on the link is the same which was added to references in January 2019 für 'Women's Celebration'.
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Initial post 6 MAY by Michael Garhart
Not sure if they'll release the lineage for this one, but I'll take a guess. I am guessing its [Pumpkin Patch x ((Moonstone x Baby Love)x Big Purple)].
Reply #1 of 1 posted 10 days ago by AGBTG
I'll guess Julia Child x Cinco de Mayo (he puts them in everything). And if it smells like licorice and gooseberries, I'll be even more sure.
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