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oldrosezrule
most recent 13 NOV 15 SHOW ALL
 
Initial post 10 NOV 15 by oldrosezrule
I have ten Old Blush own root roses in 2 gal pots, just bought. Ready to plant. I'm in Zone 9b (FL). I want to try to make a hedge of these. How far apart should I plant?

Also, can you tell me how to prune existing Old Blush shrubs to thicken them up, in my zone? They are blooming but thin. I haven't "cut" on them. They get FULL SUN and water and are healthy except for leaf cutter bees at times. But not thick looking. They're about 4 feet tall and 3-5 wide now, but as I say, just not very thick.

I read that you "should not" prune Old Blush. How to make them thick, and for a hedge then? I've seen photos of these roses that are THICK hedges. Do those people just use hedge trimmers to shape the plants like a rectangle-hedge? Or what? Do they go along with pruners and carefully prune with the outward facing bud, etc. etc.? What time of year would I prune here in Zone 9b?

So many questions and different answers everywhere, very confusing. Hope someone here has the real info!
Thanks! So much. :)
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Reply #1 of 3 posted 11 NOV 15 by Kim Rupert
Like many China roses, Old Blush grows into a twiggy mass by itself. It can take a while for it to develop into the size and density of plant you want, but it can do it. General shaping can be done without harming the plant. You just don't want to whack it back as some do modern HTs and floribundas or it can sulk, just sit there and seem to do nothing. If you are intending to try keeping the plant to three feet and you want you the hedge to get denser, more quickly, you can try planting them five to six feet apart so as they develop into the three by three foot size, they'll touch each other. If you want it taller and don't mind waiting longer, space them farther apart. Give them average water for your climate and feed as you would most other roses and let them do their thing. If you have to prune, just shape the plant as you would any other hedging plant, meaning clean it up around the edges. Just don't whack it back to ten inches and expect it to respond as Iceberg or other shrub types usually do. Good luck!
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Reply #2 of 3 posted 13 NOV 15 by oldrosezrule
Thank you! I keep hearing so many conflicting things. I called ARE and they said whack them twice a year. Sigh. 50% in Feb, etc. Gah. But thank you!
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Reply #3 of 3 posted 13 NOV 15 by Kim Rupert
You're welcome! That could be a climate thing. Here in SoCal, many Chinas and Teas, as well as closely related types, can sit and sulk for long periods when whacked too severely. If you're in similar conditions to ARE, give their method a try. If not, go with what seems most appropriate to you or what someone who is in your climate/conditions has success with.
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most recent 30 MAR 15 SHOW ALL
 
Initial post 14 FEB 12 by oldrosezrule
Can anyone tell me if SDLM really does get to "6 feet" wide as I have read online in various places? I keep reading it gets 3-4 feet TALL, but need to know the "average" width, zone 9b, if that helps at all. Thanks!
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Reply #1 of 3 posted 14 FEB 12 by Nastarana
Not for me. SDLM. S. de St. Anne, and Madame Cornilesson all grew about 3-4' tall and not quite as wide as tall.
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Reply #2 of 3 posted 14 FEB 12 by oldrosezrule
Thank you! I had a feeling that 6 feet wide was not right. I've been looking at photos of grown shrubs (the few photos that show the entire bush) and it sure doesn't look like 6 feet across or anything close to it. Thanks again for your reply.
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Reply #3 of 3 posted 30 MAR 15 by Matthew 0rwat
When it is young I would agree with you. A well cared for plant 10 or more years old in an ideal location can get quite large and show vigor that one would not usually expect from this rose.
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most recent 26 MAY 12 SHOW ALL
 
Initial post 18 NOV 11 by oldrosezrule
I can't find this rose for sale anywhere on line. Does anyone have a source? The two sites listed "Buy From" don't show this rose as being available. Was this rose a temporary offering or something? Why is it so hard to find? Impossible, even.
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Reply #1 of 9 posted 18 NOV 11 by Jay-Jay
When You click on the buy-from tab, You only see two nurseries, but at the bottom of that page You might click on the "VIEW ALL NURSERIES SELLING THIS ROSE" button: a lot of nurseries pop up!
Good luck with Your search!
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Reply #2 of 9 posted 18 NOV 11 by oldrosezrule
Thank you! Duh, I can't believe I didn't see that. It'll take me a while to go through each place and see if anyone has it, but thank you again for the pointer!
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Reply #3 of 9 posted 18 NOV 11 by Jay-Jay
You're welcome!
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Reply #4 of 9 posted 19 NOV 11 by oldrosezrule
OK well I've now checked most of the websites listed and none show that they have the Pope John rose. Interesting. I've also contacted Jackson and Perkins and they don't have it. Must be very very hard to find.
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Reply #5 of 9 posted 19 NOV 11 by Jay-Jay
Well You might try to contact the people that own the gardens, this rose is listed under. The Gardens Tab next to the Buy From Tab and ask them or some of them in Your neighbourhood, where they obtained this rose.
Maybe someone is so nice to offer You some cuttings to root them Yourself?
Again good luck on Your queest!
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Reply #6 of 9 posted 20 NOV 11 by RoseBlush
Many of the Jackson & Perkins may be hard to find in the near future in that J & P has gone bankrupt and distribution of the roses bred is uncertain.

Lyn
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Reply #7 of 9 posted 25 JAN 12 by Mike Mulholland
Roses Unlimited has it this year.
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Reply #8 of 9 posted 20 FEB 12 by Kathy Strong
K&M in Buckatunna, Mississippi carries it on Fortuniana rootstock, which is MUCH better than own root. Get it by mail order.
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Reply #9 of 9 posted 26 MAY 12 by bluebuster77
Totally agree. Obviously in 2012 rose season, there are no no new JP roses in nurseries. Even some recent roses like Sedona, Pope John Paul, Lady Bird are very hard to find. Luckily I got those from last year end of the season sales, and also from Home depot.
Unfortunately new JP roses received tons of negative feedbacks from customers regarding quality issues and not much good roses on their listings.
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most recent 1 MAR 12 HIDE POSTS
 
Initial post 1 MAR 12 by oldrosezrule
I received an email saying you had PINK Darlow's Enigma in stock for purchase. Is there a website where I can buy this rose from you? What size and how much is it? How many are in stock? Thanks!
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Reply #1 of 2 posted 1 MAR 12 by HMF Admin
If you review your HMF wish list it will list each nursery offering each rose on the list. You receive a notification email from us because a nursery has recently updated their nursery's plant offerings and it now includes your desired plant. Every night nursery offerings are compared to member plant wish lists to notify members of changes.
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Reply #2 of 2 posted 1 MAR 12 by Kim Rupert
Website information for this vendor has not been made available to us, so you'll need to either telephone them or write them a snail mail note to verify availability (though, what was uploaded last night is from their current catalog) and order the plant from them.
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