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Seems to be a problem: many of the photos I click on to enlarge the photo do not do so--just a blank page with the photo number comes up.
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#1 of 2 posted
23 OCT 21 by
Plazbo
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Same here.
Looks like an issue with root domain or config or something on some images
eg
helpmefind.com/rose/l.php?l=21.204035
Is trying to serve an img from
help-me-find.com/gardening/fs/398/204035.jpg
but times out
meanwhile if you use
helpmefind.com/gardening/fs/398/204035.jpg
it's served
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This was a technical issue that has been addressed. Thank you for bringing it to our attention.
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2000 Heritage Roses New Zealand. Vol 21 No. 1
p6. Joanne Knight. About Baroness Rothschild. Many of us have in our gardens, the old pink Hybrid Perpetual bred by Pernet in France in 1868 named Baroness Rothschild.....
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18 JUN 21 by
Darrell
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I do not have the 2000 issues of Heritage Roses New Zealand, but I do know that Joanne Knight published an article a number of years ago on rosarosam.com about Baronne de Rothschild. In that article she claimed that the baroness was Charlotte Beatrix de Rothschild, wife of Maurice Ephrussi. That information is incorrect. Viviane Schussele is correct here that the baroness in question was Julie-Caroline de Rothschild, who most definitely was the wife of Baron Adolphe de Rothschild.
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The early color descriptions of Lacharme's 'Baron Adolphe de Rothschild' are fiery red or deep red. In the mid 1880s, the color purple entered the descriptions and has remained so ever sense. This change suggests to me that we may not have the original rose in commerce.
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17 JUN 21 by
jedmar
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The description has been changed to "red, shaded purple". The photos and the nursery listings all belonged to the pink 'Baronne A. de Rothschild' by Pernet (1868). They have been reassigned to the correct listing. Lacharme's red Baron does not seem to exist anywhere.
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I think the breeder of this rose was Pernet-Ducher, not Mme. Ducher.
It seems that one of the parents of 'Beauté Inconstante' was an unreleased seedling bred by her... see the 1897 reference from 'Journal des Roses'. My translation might be off, but I think 'BI' was bred from 'Mme Falcot' and an unreleased climber (possibly of Noisette ancestry), and that climber was the rose bred by Mme. Ducher...
She released other roses under her own name, but this one was credited to Pernet-Ducher, and he was awarded prizes for it.
Any thoughts?
Virginia
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I agree that the rose attributed to Widow Ducher in the Journal des Roses 1897 reference was a parent of 'Beauté Inconstante' - an unnamed climber that might have been bred from the Noisette "Earl de Eldon' - not 'Beauté Inconstante' itself.
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Thanks for the feedback- I will update the breeder information, and if something else crops up to show that Pernet-Ducher was not the breeder, we can change it again. But as far as I can tell, the HMF attribution is due to a misinterpretation of that 1897 reference; all other sources I've seen credit Pernet-Ducher as the breeder.
Thanks again,
Virginia
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Virginia, perhaps if you can find the Journal des Roses issue that Darrell Schramm referred to in the ‘Rose Letter’ Nov 2018 (reference just added) it may be of interest. Darrell has said the 1871 Journal des Roses, but I think this may have been an error as HelpMeFind has this publication commencing in 1877. He says the month is July and it would surely have to have been post 1884.
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I'm fairly sure I have already added any JdR references I could find. There is a July 1897 reference- that may the one?
Virginia
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I don’t know. Hopefully HelpMeFind member Darrell might confirm.
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31 MAY 21 by
Darrell
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1871 was an embarrassing mistake. I meant 1897.--Darrell
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