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Initial post 12 OCT 16
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Reply #1 of 1 posted 12 OCT 16 by Nippstress
Hi Strawberry Hill:
My experience with Versigny mirrors yours, in that I had mine in my zone 6 pocket of my yard and it lasted about 3 or 4 years before dying one winter. I think this one is only marginally hardy in zone 5 and needs heavy winter protection to do well. It's gorgeous though.
So far, Antico Amore has survived with more cane over the winter in the same zone 6 pocket, so I'd rate its hardiness a bit better. It didn't overwinter in part sun in an average spot in the yard, so it's not entirely robust in zone 5. Etrusca is the smallest of the bunch and also in the zone 6 pocket, and I think I'm pushing its limits. Bela di Todi I only tried once and it didn't overwinter, but I have planted it again and can keep you posted.
Bottom line is that Antico Amore is probably the strongest of the bunch you list, but all are in need of some winter protection to do well in our zones.
Reply #2 of 1 posted 12 OCT 16 by StrawChicago Alkaline clay 5a
Thank you Cynthia, for the info., much appreciated. Versigny has the best fruity scent ever, Crown Princess Mag. has a slightly less scent, but is vigorous after 5 winters. This year I'll play it safe and order more Austin roses, I'm debating whether to get Young Lycidas as own-root or grafted from Austin Catalog. Its leaves are wrinkled (similar to Sharifa Asma) ... and Sharifa is very tiny as own-root !!

Sonia Rykiel died last winter, after 5 years .. but that was my fault of emptying my rain barrel right before freezing. University of Vermont stated that plants survive winter better on the dry side. This past Dec. we had tons of rain, then freezing temp which killed trees and knock-outs in my zone 5a. I'll order Sonia Rykiel again, but will dig deep at 2.5 feet for drainage. Firefighter as own-root is another iffy .. that survived 5 winters, but died in a dry-spring (I didn't winter-protect). Two Double-Delight died as own-roots, same with Pink Peace (own-root) .. so I bought Grafted-on-Dr.Huey, and they survived winter easily.

I appreciate any info.. on Young Lycidas as own-root or grafted for zone 5a ?? Barcelona survived winter easily (thanks to your recommendation). Are there fragrant roses that you would recommend for zone 5a as own-roots? Thanks.
most recent 2 DEC 15 HIDE POSTS
Initial post 2 DEC 15 by Nippstress
Available from Burlington Nursery in her 2015 rose list.

most recent 30 JUN 13 HIDE POSTS
Initial post 30 JUN 13 by Nippstress
I grow David Barber in my "hell strip" between the street and sidewalk, by my mailbox. It survives tip hardy in my zone 5 Nebraska garden, and is totally no care for me. I don't spray, and the foliage stays clean. My three-year-old plant has put out very long but low arms of blooms in every direction, and I prune it back hard after blooming to keep it in bounds. It has very large clusters of thick white blooms, some of which die off early needing some micro-pruning or "crunching" of the dead flowers to keep the remaining cluster looking nice. Like all my Tantau roses, it's tough and vigorous, and repeats well in a full sun situation. It stays low, so it's appropriate to a mailbox garden, with the arms and clusters never getting above about 2 feet. The arms stretch at least 3-4 feet in each direction if I let them, making a wide base for the plant.

Highly recommended for an easy care hardy groundcover rose in a tough situation
most recent 28 JAN 13 SHOW ALL
Initial post 25 JAN 13 by Nippstress
I've had Barcelona/Francis Dubreuil growing in my zone 5 Nebraska garden for 4 years now own-root, and it's been essentially cane hardy through our variable winters. It has faced the occasional -20 weather without complaining, and in my experience the zone ratings on this rose should be lowered. It's a typically reliable Kordes rose for me - hardy, tough, not at all fussy, trouble free, and not particularly bothered by blackspot here (though I tend to have a relatively high tolerance for blackspot). It tolerates part sun in my yard fine, and I find the blooms last well and stay that lovely dark color best in some afternoon shade. It still blooms pretty frequently all season, and the scent is truly wonderful! I don't have a nose that can detect many reportedly fragrant roses, but I'll stop by this plant periodically to sniff it and it's a deeply satisfying fruity rose smell for me.

Height is about 4-5 feet in my zone with no more than tip pruning in the spring. The rose bushes nicely without much care, and it's probably in my top 10 favorite roses among the 700+ I grow.

Reply #1 of 2 posted 27 JAN 13 by Lyn G
Cynthia ...

I copied the hardiness part of your post to the NOTES section of the rose page and suggested that HMF site users check MEMBER'S COMMENTS so that they can read the rest of your COMMENT. With a rose garden of 700 + roses, I am certain you can assess winter hardiness.

I moved the zone information down to 5b because I see it appears to be growing in many colder zones when I look at the GARDEN listings.

Reply #2 of 2 posted 28 JAN 13 by Nippstress
Hi Lyn

Wow, that was fast - thanks for considering this input and for checking it out with other gardens. I do plant a lot of roses, but HMF is such a great resource for folks all over the world that it makes sense to check that I'm not an outlier in finding this rose hardy.

I also wanted to thank you for all the obvious effort you and the other HMF folks spend keeping this site updated! It's a mind-boggling amount of work, and I frankly don't know how you all manage to keep things so current, but it's such an outstanding resource that we all benefit from unbelievably! It's well worth the premium membership to support this great site and keep it available and current for rose gardeners everywhere! Now I need to be better about posting my comments and pictures, and updating my garden page to help you all out!

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