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Hi Beth. I love your pictures! May I ask which rose do you like best between Spellcaster, Paradise and Cloudland?
I have been looking for Spellcaster. I also live in Northern Ca. Where did you find yours?
Thanks
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Hi Kelley
I think probably SPELLCASTER would be my favorite of the three. They're all beautiful, but CLOUDLAND doesn't bloom very often, and PARADISE is lovely but I like the more blended coloring on SPELLCASTER better, and the form also. I got my plant probably around 16yrs ago from an elderly lady that my husband's mom took care of. He did yard work for her. One day she decided to have him dig out a bunch of her roses. She gave them to us. I had just been bit by the rose bug a few yrs before. So, it was quite thrilling to get all those roses. Unfortunately, I don't have any of the others today. I lost a lot of roses to sunburn at our old place. Too bad too, because some were ones you can't get easily now. There was SAN ANTONIO, GEORGIA and an OLE tree rose. I think some of the others were MR LINCOLN, CHRYSLER IMPERIAL and CHRISTIAN DIOR. She liked red roses.
Nobody carries SPELLCASTER any more. I might be sending Cliff some cuttings one of these days, but I'm not sure if he can propagate it yet. I think it's still under patent.
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Hello again Beth. Thanks you for answering me. What a nice story. I bet the elderly lady loved her roses and wanted to make sure they lived on. So sad some were lost.
It looks like if this one was patented it would have run out by now for rose patents last 17 years. So you might send some cuttings to Cliff from here? Another great rosarian. I sure would love to go to both your gardens for spring flush! What a treat.
I am so sad it is not available anywhere. If you decide to start some to keep it from going extinct and sell them, please let me get in your line. Thanks
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Hi Kelley,
I wasn't sure how many yrs a rose patent lasts. I will definitely get some cutings to Cliff in the spring. I am sending him several others too.
Beth
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I sure hope they root for him. I do not think the San Jose rose garden has it anymore. They have lost a lot of roses due to diseased soil. I have looked and looked for it there over the last year and have never seen it.
A friend who works at Regan's looked it up for me yesterday just to see if someone was growing it and he said no one in this country. Only 1 country is and he could not pronouce its name LOL. So I guess I can't take a trip there. LOL
I am hoping now that it is not patented, someone may decide to propagate it and offer it for sale.
I would be more than happy to trade you for some cuttings. I doubt I have any roses that would interest you but do you need a gift certificate to your favorite rose nursery? Vintage may go out of business (horrors) they say on their site, so this may be a good time to get roses from there you may want.
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Thank you. This is a beautiful rose, very entertaining.
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Does not appear to be a picture of Austrian Copper
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What makes you think that?
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I looks like Rosa Foetida to me and not Rosa Foetida bicolor (Synonym Austrian Copper)
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It can (and often does) throw branches that flower in a bright yellow like its parent from which it sported, which adds interest to have both colored flowers on one plant. This picture is from the same bush as the orange picture I posted. If you look at this entry you will see 5 photos with yellow blooms, 3 of which have both yellow and orange on the same bush.
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Discussions like this is where HMF shines. Thanks for your input Kelley.
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PhotoDiscussion id : 25-658
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The color looks wrong.
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23 APR 08 by
Pongracz
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I checked with my files and noticed that it is not a Swim Candlelight that we have but a Tantau Candlelight. When I uploaded my list of roses to HMF, I did not see that this one went to the wrong grower. Sorry for the confusion. I will move the picture and relist ours to being from Tantau, this could account for the picture looking different as well! Thanks!
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