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The Old Rosarian 
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25 FEB 04 by
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I have received sweet briar plants with no instructions. Full sun Shade just where. We are in N Carolina in sandy soil. any help you can give will be welcome Thanks K Farrell
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Sweet Briar roses are very easy to grow in sandy soil. Just dig a hole, plant and give them some fertilizer plus water and away they will go. They prefer sun but will take some shade. You don't even have to prune them if you don't want to. They will grow to about 9 feet tall.
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This rose is growing in dry pastures or forest edges here in Slovakia, means love full sun but partial shade tolerate for a short term. Soil usually loamy and poor. Foliage with nice apple scent so far in hot sunny days!
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18 SEP 12 by
mtspace
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I grew this rose in full shade (1-2 hrs of sun per day) in NJ for six or seven years. It never bloomed, but it did fill the air with delicious green apple scent on foggy, still, spring mornings.
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This rose is so feral in parts of Australia and New Zealand that even with full deep shade, it still blooms enough to set hips with me. I really should get rid of it before I get too old to do so, but that apple smell persuades me to keep it for just a few more years. In the meantime, I de-hip after I have had my fill of the sight of the hips and before the birds can get to them.
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Could you just cut it back hard each winter that way you would get loads of smelly foliage and no flowers, maybe grow a group 3 Clematis over it?
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14 FEB 05 by
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How's the repeat on this climbing form? I love the bush - it's one of my very best in terms of health, repeat, winter hardiness and especially SCENT here in Zone 6a!
Thanks!
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The climbing version of Sutters Gold has good vigour but it only has one main flush with a few scattered flowers afterwards. In the PNW it is prone to black spot.
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26 MAY 17 by
Jay-Jay
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Yes a main flush in Spring, but almost never without flowers and over here it had some extra flushes one at high Summer and one in Fall.
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25 FEB 04 by
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I own this rose in Connecticut. It has lived for many years on a hot dry stone wall next to the highway with minimal dieback. I doubt it would do as well if not in this hot location. I purchased it from Will Tillotson's "Roses of Today and Yesteryear." Why it is not sold more widely is a mystery. It is not even in Peter Beale's "Classic Roses". Why? This is a mystery. Last winter was very hard on roses, but Etain came through smiling and while there was some dieback, it was easy to prune out and now it has bloomed and is filled with new reddish shoots. I sing the praises of this rose!!!
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10 AUG 05 by
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Hello, I live in Guiford Ct. zone 5 and would like to grow Etain on an arbor. Could you tell me when it blooms because I am looking for a climber that blooms in early June. Also, any other info on Etain would be greatly appreciated. Thank you, Liz
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Many gardeners wonder why a certain really good rose gets lost in the mists of time. There are so many roses introduced each year it gets very confusing. However there are three other ramblers which are very similiar to Etain and because they came out in the early 1900'sand Etain in the early 1950's, would be better known.
Ashdown Roses carries Etain.
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4 MAR 17 by
cakemiks
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Which other ramblers are like Etain? Since you mentioned three, it sounded like you knew some specific ones.
I'm also curious if Etain can stand up to some rain, and if it hangs on to its petals or drops them cleanly. I just dug up and threw out Paul Noel for those reasons...the blooms turned brown after one rain and then hung on for a long time (over a month) looking pathetic. It would probably be a great rose in a drier climate.
Our weather (Asheville, NC) is not too hard on roses, but I avoid any that are likely to ball or melt in rain due to our occasional thunderstorms.
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'Albertine' is quite like 'Etain'. In the south-west of the U.K. it is blackspot resistant but I have seen it in warmer areas with rust. The blooms stand up well to rain, however, its main fault is that the flowers don't fall off cleanly after they are over. Otherwise a very pretty easy rose.
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i live on 6 acres of rain forest and have clay soil..i do not seem to have much trouble growing roses but would like to know the best ones to grow in clay soil
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It isn't the soil type that roses complain about, it is usually the weather. Some roses look poor and ball in wet weather, others bleach and burn in high heat. And many just die in very cold winters. Your climatic conditions are really more important than your soil.
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1 SEP 05 by
lesleigh
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thank you for your response..i do appreiciate it
regards lesleigh
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#3 of 4 posted
13 SEP 05 by
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The climate comment was right on. Unless you're buying own root plants, nearly every rose you have available to you will perform the same way in your soil, as far as the roots are concerned, because so many are budded on the same root stock.
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See my garden profile, "Alkaline clay zone 5a". I have very heavy clay, and decent rainfall. the darker green foliage likes heavy clay. The glossy foliage likes wetness.
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