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most recent 9 JUL HIDE POSTS
Initial post 9 JUL by mmanners
If GoldenAge is still active here, I'll apologize -- answering their query only nine years later! Our 'Maréchal Niel' came to us from Greg Grant, in Texas. Details of his finding it can be found on pp. 114-115 of the book "The Rose Rustlers" by Greg Grant and William C. Welch. 2017. To summarize, Dr. Bill Welch discovered it in the back garden of a home in Bryan, Texas. Greg sent it to me. We tested it for the viruses causing rose mosaic disease shortly after receiving it, and it was not infected. It has since been tested by PCR and remains free of all known rose viruses.

We graft nearly all of our roses on 'Fortuniana' rootstock, and that's what I did with this rose. The result was easily the most vigorous rose I've ever grown, quickly climbing to the top of a 16 ft (3 meter) structure. The description here says it occasionaly repeats, but for us, it is seldom without at least a few flowers.

It deeply resents pruning, and I have killed a plant of it simply by pruning one back toward the top of an 8-foot (2.44 m) trellis.

While I often chip bud roses, I find this one very difficult to bud -- most of the buds die. However, it is extremely easy to cleft graft, so that's how we propagate it (with leaves, under mist).

I'm posting photos today, of our plants.
Reply #1 of 1 posted 9 JUL by Robert Neil Rippetoe
That's a stunner Malcolm.
most recent 27 FEB HIDE POSTS
Initial post 27 FEB by ldmont
Xochimilco has been an excellent rose in my Zone 9b yard. Well-mannered growth habit (about 3 feet tall after about 15 months), very attractive flowers with repeat blooming and quite healthy.

I can't detect much scent, but that may be me.

PS - I would like to post a positive comment about 'Xander', but so far it is not listed on HMF. It is also a lovely rose with beautiful single flowers, tidy growth habit and quite healthy.

Edit - I erroneously said this rose was bred by Malcolm Manners - it's not and I have amended my post accordingly. My apologies.
Reply #1 of 5 posted 27 FEB by Patricia Routley
Could Xander be Xanadu? …answers own question. No Xanadu is double, you have said Xander is single.
I’ll jog Malcolm’s memory and see if he can add Xander.
Reply #2 of 5 posted 27 FEB by mmanners
I have not introduced a rose named 'Xander'. Perhaps it's by someone else? Or if mine, perhaps misnamed? 'Xiuhcoatl' is single pink with Kordesii-type shiny "holly" foliage. I can't think of anything else of mine that it might be.
Reply #4 of 5 posted 27 FEB by ldmont
I have amended my comment to delete the erroneous reference to you. My apologies.
Reply #3 of 5 posted 27 FEB by mmanners
Ah! I tracked it down.

Xander is by Al Whitcomb (recently deceased). He apparently did not register it. I've suggested to Rose Petals Nursery (who carry it) that it really needs an HMF entry.
Reply #5 of 5 posted 27 FEB by Patricia Routley
Good tracking Malcolm. ‘Xander’ now added.
Now you can do that comment idmont.
most recent 14 JAN HIDE POSTS
Initial post 14 JAN by mmanners
I find that this rose smells like hyacinths, a fragrance I don't recall encountering in a rose before. It's very good.
most recent 19 DEC HIDE POSTS
Initial post 19 DEC by mmanners
In Florida's hot, humid conditions, I find this to be a great improvement on many of the similar Austins. Vigorous but not too-big growth, and flowers frequently and heavily. The only downside is the lack of fragrance. But it's a great rose.
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