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Deborah Petersen
most recent 18 SEP SHOW ALL
Initial post 3 SEP by Desertgarden561
Can this rose be grown as a free-standing shrub?
Reply #1 of 1 posted 18 SEP by Deborah Petersen
No way to know for sure, having not tried it myself or heard of anyone who has, but I think it wouldn't be too easy to deal with, growing that way. A mature plant throws out long, relatively lax canes (10'+), which readily take advantage of any upward support they find (I have to spend time keeping it out of surrounding small trees and keeping it on its own support), while the main trunk is still not that substantial, even after some years (unlike Mme. Alfred Carriere, which has hefty main trunks and can be trained to be freestanding). It would be a sprawling, very thorny thing with massive amounts of biomass, I think (maybe cascading down a hill would work?). Its response to pruning is vigorous production of more long canes so I tend to cut a cane off entirely if I want to stop it from going some direction.
most recent 30 APR HIDE POSTS
Initial post 30 APR by Deborah Petersen
My plant also has produced some nice blooms this spring and looks better-than-average -- nice photo!
most recent 9 JAN SHOW ALL
Initial post 6 JAN
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Reply #1 of 6 posted 6 JAN by Deborah Petersen
It is a great hybrid tea. Lots of flowers to cut (last a long time) and easy to live with. This one is a grafted plant, started from a cheap "body-bag" (less than best grade) from the local hardware store. Hope it does well for you, too!
Reply #2 of 6 posted 6 JAN by Andrew from Dolton
It makes a very attractive standard rose too.
Reply #3 of 6 posted 9 JAN by DLEverette_NC_Zone7b
What is a standard rose? I'm pretty new to roses so I don't know all the jargon yet :)
Reply #4 of 6 posted 9 JAN by Andrew from Dolton
I was going to write about them myself but HMF glossary does it so much better.
Reply #5 of 6 posted 9 JAN by DLEverette_NC_Zone7b
Thanks for that. I didn't know you could train a rose to be a standard. Pretty cool stuff!
Reply #6 of 6 posted 9 JAN by Andrew from Dolton
Indeed, roses are very cool.
Reply #7 of 6 posted 9 JAN by Margaret Furness
Pity so many of them bite.
most recent 19 MAY 17 HIDE POSTS
Initial post 19 MAY 17 by StrawChicago Alkaline clay 5a
I love your bush, so gorgeous !! Is your Gruss an Coberg OWN-ROOT or Grafted-on-Dr.Huey? What's the best soil for it (clay, loamy, or sandy)? Does it need rain water to bloom well? Also can it take partial shade or full-sun is needed? How do you like the scent? I lost $$$ on roses dying through my zone 5a winter, so I always check for the vigor of own-root, before buying. THANK YOU. G. an C. is hardy for zone 5b.
Reply #1 of 2 posted 19 MAY 17 by Deborah Petersen
This plant is own-root. The soil here is gravelly clay-loam that tests neutral but some areas of the backyard show alkaline salt-blooms in low-rain years. I think this is a variety that is likely to do best in full sun (what it gets here) and it is irrigated weekly (slow, deep watering) during the summer dry months. The scent is very good, like narcissus and one of the reasons I bought it. It is susceptible to whatever our variety of black spot is, but conditions that allow that only occur for a few weeks in early spring in some years, so not a deal-breaker here. Otherwise, extremely healthy and, yes, strong on its own roots.
Reply #2 of 2 posted 19 MAY 17 by StrawChicago Alkaline clay 5a
Thank you for your reply. Your clay-loam is the best, I admire your garden-pictures, love those big rose bushes !! I'm making a "wafting fragrant garden" bed, and I'm waiting for Burlington nursery on the availability of OWN-ROOT Gruss an Coberg.
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