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Such a great picture!
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... as if they bloom in winter.
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Since multiflora descendants range from micro-miniature through shrub to massive rambler in size, some hint of the size or habit of the plant might be useful.
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One of the references (Rosenlexikon) says it's a climber. I think the French reference, Catalogue des Rosiers de Ketten Frères, Luxembourg 1893/1894, says it's a very vigorous shrub.
Here is Vintage Gardens' description. They have it listed as a rambler (growth habit 1). More shrub-like climber than tree-gobbler?
http://www.vintagegardens.com/rose_content.aspx?cat_id=29&product_id=4938
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#2 of 5 posted
5 NOV 12 by
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Thanks.
The drawing suggests a height of roughly 6' (200cm) and about 5' (150cm) wide, consistent with one of the photos I discovered here after writing the comment.
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It sounds like an interesting rose.
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#4 of 5 posted
5 NOV 12 by
mtspace
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I was smitten by Ute's photo of this rose. Delighted (but not very surprised) to see VG carries it.
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Agreed. That photo's fantastic.
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Because of its strong, pleasant odor and lovely shade of dark rose, I am always thrilled when my Baronne Prevost produces a blossom. I use the singular here deliberately because this rose plant - which has been in the ground for five years and has countless four foot tall canes and half a dozen eight foot tall canes - never produces more than one blossom. All these canes, btw, are perfectly vertical with almost no arching going on. It stands ramrod straight like bamboo. The plant produces several buds each spring which are ravaged by some desiccating insect until they dry out and fail to open. Absent these insects in the fall the plant makes a single blossom. The problem I have is that as profoundly fond as I am of this annual 3 inch fragrant blossom I find myself eyeing this space for use by a rose that might produce, two maybe three times as many blossoms in a year. I would hope they might be at least as pretty as this one i.e. of middling or better form. And they must be chock-full of delicious fragrance. So what should I do?
1) prune Baronne Prevost severely next year; give it one last chance.
2) move Baronne Prevost to a far corner of the garden where the lack of bloom will be less of a problem
3) plant a fragrant, repeat flowering rose with powerful fragrance in its place. (suggestions welcome.)
4) fertilize again and hope for the best.
5) chuck it and plant monarda in its place.
6) selectively prune out old canes, use branch spreaders, and train the long canes horizontally.
Other info: I had the same problem with Mons. Tillier which I pruned to the ground last year. The rose never recovered. Hermosa, six feet away blooms happily. Roxy, planted at the feet of Baronne Prevost blooms happily. Until a damp monsoon season this August when new growth suffered a bit of powdery mildew, it's had not a touch of disease, but it may have been under-watered for its first two years in this location.
Thanks in advance for any and all advice.
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I don't have this rose -- yet. But I think you should try pegging it first. If it has a lot of growth, it seems a shame to move it at this point. All the roses I've trained horizontally bloomed better the next spring. Will cutting back a hybrid perpetual postpone blooming more? I know it's a totally different rose, but I cut back my white Lady Banks by half right before it ate half the house and got no blooms the next spring -- lots of new green though. If that space isn't too premium, I think pegging is worth a try.
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I don't wonder your Monsieur Tiller never recovered. You just do NOT prune teas like this.
Try a little sulphate of potash on your Baronne Prevost, perhaps a teaspoonful once a month for three months in spring.
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#3 of 3 posted
25 OCT 12 by
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Thank you, both.
UPDATE May 2013
I had resolved to move Baronne Prevost this winter after five disappointing seasons during which it produced a total of six blossoms. But I never quite got around to digging it up. Finally spring came, the plant greened up, and I decided to let nature take its course. Gradually, as leaves covered the ten canes that had grown to eight feet in height last year, the canes became more horizontal. By late spring they presented as nice arches, about five feet high. At this point, each of those arched canes has perhaps ten or twenty fat buds showing color.
The rose promises to make more than ten times as many blossoms this year as it has made in its entire existence in my garden.
I knew that it takes some time for a rose to build up, but I confess that I did not understand what a difference time can make. Or how long the process can be. Sometimes patience and doing nothing is the best course of action. I think pegging would have done essentially the same thing.
UPDATE May 2015
Now the canes are very long. They go straight up for six or seven feet. Then they arch and approach the ground, stretching five or six feet from the center of the plant in every direction. As the canes approach the ground they sprout laterals that bear blossoms. These are among the most fragrant in the garden and therefore are ravaged by thrips. Still, because I spray very little, thrips are eventually brought under control by lady beetles. Hopefully in the near future this will happen before Baronne Prevost has finished blooming for the season. What a pity it is that thrips have olfactory senses that align so perfectly with our own. This is among the most delightfully fragrant roses I've known.
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