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Initial post 5 MAY 14 by cabin in the woods
Oregon, zone 8a, warm summers with some humidity and relatively mild winters. I see there's lots of comments and photos on the beautiful roses and great fragrance of Jude the Obscure so I won't add mine. However, I personally always want information on the bush itself (leaves, canes, shape, growth, health, ect.) and what it looks like. So I'll say what I've experieced. **I grew this rose from a 5" band to a 4 year old bush -- it resembled an upsidedown teepee, 5' x 5', well leafed and bushy, with good vigor and health. As others have mentioned here, the gorgeous flower color fades in full sun - which I find disappointing. Another disadvantage is the difference between the good June flush of flowers and the later repeats. The repeats are reliable, but only a fraction of the bloom. Typical of most roses, I know, but disappointing. Still, on the whole, this is a nice rose to have in the garden.
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Reply #1 of 2 posted 8 MAY 14 by HMF Admin
Yes, photos and descriptions of more than just a rose's bloom are much valued and appreciated here at HMF.
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Reply #2 of 2 posted 25 JAN 15 by Michael Garhart
I dont actually mind the fade, because it seems to do it gracefully. Mine doesnt bleach here in the Portland metro. It goes from glowing apricot to soft peach pink.
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most recent 6 AUG 14 HIDE POSTS
 
Initial post 6 AUG 14 by cabin in the woods
I planted this rose in the wrong place. It's huge for only a 2 year old plant (6 ft. wide) and will soon be competing for space with other roses. It should be moved or the poor thing will be pruned too much. (I'm probably too lazy to move it though.) This year it's laying on the ground mostly, but I can hardly wait for it to start mounding so the flower clusters will drape down in that beautiful way they do in photos. More than one source says it's self-cleaning . Just a few clusters on mine have been. A few others shake off easily, but most have to be deadheaded or they stick to the plant. That was a big disappointment. However, this rose has enough going for it that I'll keep it for now. Like the fragrance. Often I don't smell anything, but sometimes it's there - slight, but wonderfully fresh and sweet. It's also a very healthy rose bush (no mildew or blackspot so far), and as others have said, flowers well throughout the season.
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most recent 4 JUL 14 HIDE POSTS
 
Initial post 4 JUL 14 by cabin in the woods
(Some call Blushing Lucy a climber - others a rambler. Which is it?)

I have enjoyed growing this rose for several years. I don't understand why it isn't grown more.

The description section and one quote in the reference section call Blushing Lucy large flowered. It isn't. The flowers are small, semi-double and bloom in large clusters. They slowly fade to almost white in the sun. As with a previous comment here, I too smell very little fragrance. It's outstanding features are a long, profuse flowering period (starts last half of June); abundant, healthy foliage; and strong growth. I have used scarecrow sprinklers to protect my roses from deer for years now . The sprinklers are on guard duty from mid-evening to mid-morning, but can be set off by wind or road traffic also. The rose leaves get wet some during those hours, but BL has little blackspot. I grow these bushes as fountains and last summer they put on their best show yet - quite lovely. Last winter during an "arctic freeze" they died to the ground, but they're "own root" and are growing vigorously again. They're thorny bushes, but not bad. The spent petals don't fall off cleanly, but are easily shaken off. One bush has started 3 new plants from stems laying on the ground.
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Initial post 17 DEC 09 by arvid jørgensen
I have had this wonderful rose in my garden for many years now, and I have grown more and more fond of it over the years. A Norwegian rose expert : Leon Stangeland, once wrote an article for the Norwegian Rose Society`s Magazine on the roses of his garden. There was a photo of this rambler in his garden and he spoke very favourably of it, clearly expressing that he held it to be one of his favourites. This made me plant the rose in my own garden, a decision I have never regretted. It is now also one of my favourites. Together with American Pillar it is now covering most of my gazebo, and I love it. The stems are rather thin and pliable at least compared to American Pillar, but they grow profusely, easily reaching across the roof of the gazebo and all the way down on the other side, criss-crossing in all directions. - Fabulous. At first there was only the one, stunning flush. But by and by it started to sport some single flowers and small clusters also later in the season. This year it has just gone on and on up til now when there are still some flowers left on the plant. We now write December 17th, and as the day temperatures are expected to drop below zero C as of tomorrow, I am afraid that will be the end of it. However I had never imagined this one to be one of the latest bloomers in my garden. The small, loosely filled flowers have a wonderful scent, and it is quite disease resistant too. A little mildew has been detected a couple of times, but it has so far been left powerless to deal with this profusely growing plant. The uploaded photo, unfortunately a bit blurred, was taken on Dec 1st. 2009.
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Reply #1 of 14 posted 24 MAY 14 by cabin in the woods
thanks for all the good information
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Reply #2 of 14 posted 24 MAY 14 by arvid jørgensen
My pleasure. You say that you live in a cold area. The climate here at Lista is rather mild for Norway. It has by a helpmefind member been compared to the climate in the Seattle-Vancouver area. But you could always try. It is one of my top favourites. My American Pillar froze down to the ground during a recent harsh winter - not so Sander`s White Rambler. (American Pillar is coming back though - on its way to becoming its once glorious self.) Good Luck!
Best regards Arvid
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Reply #3 of 14 posted 28 MAY 14 by cabin in the woods
Wow! I'm amazed that anywhere in Norway has weather that mild. In the photo of your pretty gazebo and Sander's White (and I assume American Pillar?) -- Sander's look very healthy. If you have the time, I've got some questions for you. They are: --How big is the flower? --How long does it bloom? --How much (if any) shade does your bush get and how well does it cope with it? --Either Graham Thomas and/or Peter Beals said Sander's White is a superior rose to 'Seagull' and from what I've researched I can't see why. I was wondering if you have any opinions on that. I have an old tree that would look pretty with a least one climbing rose on it, and I'm serously considering the roses May Queen or Seagull, and thanks to your posts, Sander's white. Unfortunately, I need roses that will take part sun only.

Any comments from you (or anyone else) would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks,
Michelle
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Reply #4 of 14 posted 28 MAY 14 by Patricia Routley
I honestly don't know if 'May Queen' would grow in your area, but if it did, you need a low tree, such as an apple so that you can see the blooms closely. If the tree is tall, then one of the whites would produce a mass of distance colour.
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Reply #5 of 14 posted 28 MAY 14 by arvid jørgensen
Yes it is "American Pillar" . The flowers of "Sander`s White" are about 4cm in diameter. If the choice is between "Seagull" and " Sander`s White" I would definitely choose Sander`s. I have both in my garden and Sander`s is much better. Like I said it seems pretty hardy too. Both are deseasefree in my garden. It seems to tolerate some shade as it is shadowed by an apple tree in the afternoon. It is listed as once blooming but tends to sport scattered flowers later in the season when established - as late as December shown in the photo you commented. I have no experience with "May Queen" but like another member has commented I don`t think it will tolerate your climate conditions. You could also try the Finnish "Polstjernan" (The Polar Star) known by many in America I think, by the name of "The White Rose of Finland" - if you can get it. This is said to be the hardiest of all climbers - and yes, you can send it up a tree. It is extremely vigorous. .Good Luck!

Best regards Arvid
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Reply #6 of 14 posted 29 MAY 14 by cabin in the woods
Thank you Arvid and Patricia!
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Reply #7 of 14 posted 29 MAY 14 by Jay-Jay
Over here Seagull is much more vigorous and climbs higher into a tree. It takes some more years to flower than Sander's White Rambler.
A nurseryman told me he didn't advise S.W.R. to people with children or other, that would be on a vacation in the time that this rose flowers. They would never be able to enjoy the full blooming.
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Reply #8 of 14 posted 29 MAY 14 by arvid jørgensen
Yes, Seagull is definitely very vigorous, only it hasn`t shown its full potential in my garden as yet, but I have planted a new one, so I`ll, have to wait and see. Yes Sander`s White`s main flush tends to come a bit later than ramblers of this kind. so if the only time you can enjoy its full flush is in the vacation time, you may be a bit disappointed unless you have your vacation later in the season.. The time of the main flush may of course vary depending on the climate in your place
Best regards Arvid
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Reply #9 of 14 posted 30 MAY 14 by Jay-Jay
You're right about climate and the time of the vacation... or just stay at home that time in (as we say in Holland) "Tuinesië" (Gardenesië)
Arvid: Do You grow Starkodder too? A very nice Scandinavian Helenae-Hybrid Rambler.
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Reply #10 of 14 posted 30 MAY 14 by arvid jørgensen
Yes, I have Starkodder. It flowered when I bought it a couple of years ago, but not since. I am waiting for it to flower this year. I am also waiting for it to grow up a cherry tree, but so far it has been a bit slow. It is quite healthy though and hardy too.

Best regards Arvid
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Reply #11 of 14 posted 31 MAY 14 by Jay-Jay
I didn't see it listed for Your garden on HMF. So I wondered. It flowers every year (over here) but in some years some caterpillars loved the buds too. It is very vigorous and it roots super-easy. It started to flower the day before yesterday. (early compared to other years)
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Reply #12 of 14 posted 1 JUN 14 by arvid jørgensen
I haven`t updated my plants in HMF for a while. Some have disappeared and many have been planted since the last update. I guess I will have to do something about that. I hope mine will be as vigorous and floriferous as yours soon.

Arvid
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Reply #13 of 14 posted 2 JUN 14 by Jay-Jay
I'll upload one or two photo's soon.
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Reply #14 of 14 posted 2 JUN 14 by arvid jørgensen
Good, I`ll check them out. I saw an enormous specimen i the "Trädgårdsföreningen" Park in Gothenburg some years ago. It was fantastic. I hope mine will grow to be half as big eventually.
Arvid
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