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30 JUN 12 by
Leene
This is a really great rose. It only grows in short spurts but has defended itself admirably against insect damage during a very heavy aphid infestation this spring. The flowers are beautiful and last for a long time on the plant. I recommend it highly!
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#1 of 5 posted
12 MAY 17 by
Gdisaz10
How is the bush of this rose? In my climate it does not grow very much and remains small. Does any of you have one that has reached the size indicated?
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#2 of 5 posted
12 MAY 17 by
Leene
Pretty small compared to my other roses. I've had it since the fall of 2011 and it's not even two feet tall. The canes do have a tendency to flop, though.
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#3 of 5 posted
13 MAY 17 by
jedmar
It is about 5 feet in our garden in zone 7b. Height might also depend on the understock used.
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In my Spokane (zone 5/6) garden it’s at least as large as described. Super tough and suckers a bit. Mine is own-root. It’s plenty vigorous!
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My plant remained small. I will try to take a specimen with its own roots. Thanks
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This plant has grown on me. It is one of my favourite Austins. The bloom display is exceptional during the first flush. This is a very disease free, fragrant rose for Toronto in my no spray garden. Repeat is not as satisfactory as I would like but I will let the plant settle for a few years and evaluate again. It has only been 2 years since I had this rose, yet it is already a 4X5 shrub with 50 + buds waiting to bloom. I expect long canes to appear later in the summer as had last year that would be tied up to form a low pillar. TG is extremely hardy. Stem tip dieback only in the crazy winter of 2007-08 in my z6 garden with only burlap as protection.
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I agree with the first exceptional flowering. In my garden unfortunately it gets black spot.
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The description page for this rose says it is susceptible to blackspot. There is nothing about that in the references, and the only member comment that mentions blackspot indicates that this rose has good resistance.
The member ratings (which admittedly must frequently be taken with a pinch of salt) claim excellent resistance to disease, but obviously without any indication of which disease this relates to.
There is one photo (Photo Id: 288945) which appears to show some "blackspot", but based on a recent conversation with Michael Garhart (https://www.helpmefind.com/gardening/l.php?l=21.288890&tab=32) it looks to me as though that spotting may be caused by Cercospora instead. The grey centres in the spots are a trait of Cercospora, and don't appear with Diplocarpon.
So the question here is: where did the "Susceptible to blackspot" warning come from?
Edit: Found this over on houzz (in the "Guillot Generosa Roses" thread) - "I used to live in Thailand (20 years ago) and now I live in southern Mississippi. We have very high heat and humidity here too. I have 5 plants of Martine Guillot and they are some of my healthiest roses. They do not have problems with blackspot or mildew and I rarely spray."
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#1 of 5 posted
2 NOV 22 by
Ericchn
Even the website of Guillot Rose declares that Martine Guillot has excellent resistance to blackspots.
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#2 of 5 posted
3 NOV 22 by
jedmar
Not clear where this came from. Removed.
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#3 of 5 posted
3 NOV 22 by
Ericchn
This rose in my warm humid climate is healthy and does not have blackspot. The flowers in the sun do not last long and attract many cetonia that ruin them (Oxythyrea funesta)
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#5 of 5 posted
24 MAR by
Ericchn
Great to hear your confirmation about the disease resistance.
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In my zone 7 eastern North Carolina garden my summers are long and hot with high humidity. Every Austin rose I have ever tried contracted overwhelming black-spot. This variety was no different. The flowers are fragrant in cooler temperatures, but lost most of their scent in the heat. In most cases I will not judge a rose for black spot resistance until it has been in the ground in the same spot for at least three years. This allows the pathogen to establish itself in the soil and debris around the rose. Roses that appear resistant during the first two years often begin contracting the fungal disease in the third year. Young Lycidas began showing signs of black-spot almost immediately.
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It also gets black spot in my garden.
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