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Mila & Jul
most recent 14 OCT 21 SHOW ALL
 
Initial post 6 OCT 19 by Jay-Jay
Just WOW! Amazing.
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Reply #1 of 15 posted 7 OCT 19 by HubertG
Yes, it is! I would say thanks Jay-Jay but it isn't mine but my sister's. ;-)
It has been rather neglected over the years, not pruned very much except for some larger branches taken out. It's on somewhat sandy soil and certainly on its own roots now as I planted the graft below the ground.
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Reply #2 of 15 posted 7 OCT 19 by Jay-Jay
Hope that mine will get as huge in the future.
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Reply #3 of 15 posted 9 OCT 21 by HubertG
Unfortunately this specimen fell down in a gale the other day and split in two at the base where the limbs fork . It's currently lying more or less flat on the ground. The foliage from one half is wilting but the other half appears OK so presumably the roots from that side are still functioning.

Obviously we're hoping to save it, but I think half of it is gone. It will need a huge cut-back and hopefully it will reshoot as it is on its own roots. I'm taking plenty of cuttings.

Does anyone have any advice on what to do in this situation?

Also, would anyone in Australia like cuttings from this rose as I have plenty of material? I'd like to be able to know it survives elsewhere if mine don't strike and we lose the bush.
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Reply #4 of 15 posted 9 OCT 21 by Jay-Jay
That's a real pity Hubert!
I wish You a "Lucky Strike"... and not the one that smokes.
Hope volunteers will submit themselves to propagate this rose and cherish it , like You did.
Best Regards, Jay-Jay.
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Reply #5 of 15 posted 9 OCT 21 by Margaret Furness
Nice to "hear" you again Jay-Jay.
The garden of my new house has three Teas, and I think one is Mrs BRC, so I won't ask for cuttings, thanks.
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Reply #11 of 15 posted 11 OCT 21 by Jay-Jay
So no fries of Frisians any more around Your garden any more? You had a wonderful place to live, as far as I could make up from Your photo's Margaret.

I'm not back, but maybe it looked like that, as if I didn't visit HMF at all the past months...
But I did so now and then due to circumstances.
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Reply #12 of 15 posted 11 OCT 21 by Margaret Furness
The Friesians I saw on holiday in Tasmania, but I did have occasional kangaroos at my place.
Yes it was a lovely place to live, but 2.2ha became more than I could manage. None of us are getting younger!
Best wishes.
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Reply #13 of 15 posted 11 OCT 21 by Jay-Jay
Yup,
2.2 ha is a lot to manage!
And Yup I'm experience the same getting older and a little balder.
None of us are...? I'm not English speaking, but it feels a bit odd for me. In Dutch none would be singular => None of us is getting Younger.
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Reply #14 of 15 posted 11 OCT 21 by Margaret Furness
You're right. English usage is a bit careless at times. Or mine is.
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Reply #7 of 15 posted 10 OCT 21 by HubertG
Thanks Jay-Jay, and it is indeed good to hear from you again.

Margaret, may I ask what the other Teas are?

Duchesse, no worries, I'll send you a private message.
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Reply #8 of 15 posted 10 OCT 21 by Margaret Furness
One is thornless so I'm assuming Mrs Dudley Cross. Not sure about the third yet - I've sent photos to Billy. Planted 15 years ago so not rare. I will be planting a few roses but nothing like the number I had before.
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Reply #6 of 15 posted 10 OCT 21 by Duchesse
I'd like to grow some cuttings please
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Reply #9 of 15 posted 10 OCT 21 by HubertG
Thanks Margaret, I hope you identify them all.
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Reply #10 of 15 posted 11 OCT 21 by Margaret Furness
The third is Maman Cochet. A nice selection to inherit.
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Reply #15 of 15 posted 14 OCT 21 by Mila & Jul
Hi Hubert - i would try to chip the buds...or graft short sticks with one bud each...to increase the number of "tries"... I d volunteer but live in Germay... Best, jul
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most recent 30 SEP 21 SHOW ALL
 
Initial post 27 JUN 21 by Claire
The good: blooms reliably with big flowers even in high heat that have good substance and hold up well. They are strongly scented with the juicy ripe grapefruit scent I associate with china roses like Spice. I've not had any major problems with balling. A great flower for Houston.

The bad: soon after I planted her at the front of the bed (thinking of the eventual height as 35 inches; this was in 2017 before more recent comments from AZ), she put out a strong basal cane thick as my thumb that insisted on growing straight up to about six feet (this after being cut back twice). The cane branched out at the top and was putting out lots of new growth at the tips so I decided to go with the flow and make a tree rose. I cut off the smaller wimpier canes at the bottom. This worked for a couple years, she just kept on flowering at the top, but this spring we have had more rain than usual and she put out three strong new basals all going straight up, which I haven't the heart to cut off. I'll to have to bite the bullet and move her farther back though I worry she won't survive the transition. Maybe will start a cutting first. Anyway height dimensions given here do not seem to apply to hot places, where she definitely does not top off at 35 inches. Anticipate a tall fairly narrow shrub to six feet - perhaps more.
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Reply #1 of 11 posted 27 JUN 21 by HubertG
That's a very interesting pattern of growth which makes me wonder even more if this is in fact on old European Hybrid Tea 'rediscovered' in China.
I wish I still had my plant but it looks like no one has it anymore in Australia. Mine never got that tall. I loved the fragrance!
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Reply #2 of 11 posted 28 JUN 21 by Mila & Jul
Same growth pattern here in Germany - cant comment though on year to year comparisons, as mine freezes to the ground every year. It always comes back, but takes its time....
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Reply #3 of 11 posted 28 SEP 21 by petsarebest
Claire, Where are you located? I've been looking everywhere to buy the plant, but Greenmantle doesn't ship to FL and Angel Gardens does have a mother plant but only does it by custom propagation (an extra $25 plus plant and shipping and handling).
Do you remember where you got yours?
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Reply #4 of 11 posted 29 SEP 21 by Claire
I would have said Rose Petals Nursery but I can't confirm that. They don't seem to sell it now tho they do carry sui mei ren which appears similar to me. I have moved mine and it is still recovering and not back to its old shape. I might be able to take some cuttings next summer. I am in Houston.
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Reply #5 of 11 posted 29 SEP 21 by petsarebest
Claire, if that becomes needed, that'd be very generous and much appreciated. I recently found it on Long Ago Roses' 2021 inventory list. I've sent an email simply expressing my hope that they continue to offer it in 2022. Unfortunately, I will have to wait until late November to know. Still looking around. I called Northland Rosarium last week and they were very kind - they said they got it in the 90s but for one reason or another they don't have it or don't offer it anymore.
It's interesting to find something that used to be offered as a staple almost like the Peace rose go away in 10yrs.
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Reply #8 of 11 posted 29 SEP 21 by Margaret Furness
See the comments about what it does in spring.
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Reply #9 of 11 posted 29 SEP 21 by petsarebest
I might be missing what you're referring to - I see the comment posted by claire in June of this year saying that the plant seems to throw new basal canes straight up every few years. I like getting new basal canes. I actually try to encourage them.
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Reply #10 of 11 posted 29 SEP 21 by Give me caffeine
See Discussion id 118-056, by NikosR, as well as various comments attached to photos.

Apparently TIC has a severe tendency to ball in spring in some climates, so it can spend a lot of time looking like rubbish. I might try it sometime anyway, as spring is often dry where I am.
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Reply #11 of 11 posted 29 SEP 21 by Claire
It has not balled for me that I can remember. It can be shy of flowers and like most roses will go semi dormant in July/August. But it has flowers, the flowers will be good - they generally open, always smell good, and keep their size and petal count in all seasons.
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Reply #12 of 11 posted 29 SEP 21 by Mila & Jul
Here, in Southern Germany, it sure balls a lot in rainy springs...but if the blooms open - its just wonderful
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Reply #13 of 11 posted 30 SEP 21 by Margaret Furness
In my Mediterranean climate, zone 9b, every flower balled in spring. I don't keep roses that look disgusting for a third of the growing season. (E Veyrat Hermanos was another one I removed.)
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most recent 23 SEP 21 HIDE POSTS
 
Initial post 23 SEP 21 by jedmar
Would like to see photos, with this parentage!
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Reply #1 of 1 posted 23 SEP 21 by Mila & Jul
.... Me as well!
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most recent 13 SEP 21 HIDE POSTS
 
Initial post 11 SEP 21 by Margaret Furness
Is your plant very prickly? If not, it's probably Mrs Dudley Cross (see comment on description page).
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Reply #1 of 3 posted 12 SEP 21 by Mila & Jul
Many thanks for your comment, Margaret. I will check and reassign... As I cant recall it to be prickly, you are likely right...
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Reply #2 of 3 posted 13 SEP 21 by Mila & Jul
Indeed...no prickles at all...will reassign
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Reply #3 of 3 posted 13 SEP 21 by Margaret Furness
Mrs Dudley Cross is (for me) a better rose than Mrs Foley Hobbs, anyway!
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