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Wasn't all the great for me in the Palm Springs area either.
It was ok, but nothing to rave about.
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Belinda's Dream grows very nicely in San Francisco -- vigorous without elbowing her way into more space than she's been allotted. My only complaint is that flowers can be very slow to open -- never balling, but flirting with it on occasion. Also, the thrips seem to find BD particularly appealing. Can't say I blame them. All those petals must make for some happy snacking.
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I have to agree. I am in zone 6 also and this last winter 'Belinda's Dream' died back to the ground while all her neighbors, among them 'Alfred Colomb', 'Zigeunerblut', 'The Fairy' and 'Marie Pavie', did fine with no die back.
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#4 of 5 posted
20 APR 17 by
Jerilin
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Belinda's Dream doing very poorly as own root bush here as well in zone 4b/5a. Has about an inch of surviving cane after a relatively mild winter. Would only recommend for zones 7 and up based on comments here and my experience.
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#5 of 5 posted
20 APR 17 by
 jedmar
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We changed the hardiness to Zone 7 plus. Thank you.
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Agree with Jerilin, a friend in my zone 5a also reported Belinda Dream dying to the crown after winter. Will put more comments in HMF regarding zone 5a survival for both grafted on Dr.Huey ($5 to $20 each) and own-root roses ($20 to $40 each).
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I have this growing in a pot this year. The fragrance of this rose is wonderful and strong. I can smell one bloom from 10 feet away. The pictures I see of this rose show purple. In my garden it is not, it is more magenta or dark pink. I love the smell, and the blooms last a while. Comparing this rose to Ebb Tide (which I have had in the past), Twilight Zone wins by far in rebloom and vigor. The fragrance is just as strong.
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Thank you for the info. I'm not sure if Ebb tide or Twilight zone would be best for my alkaline clay, zone 5a. Anyone grow Twilight zone as own-root in zone 5? Thanks.
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#2 of 5 posted
28 MAR 17 by
Jerilin
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Hi,
I cannot comment on alkaline clay or own root version but I am in zone 5a, neutral-acidic, ultra rich black loam, NE Iowa (surrounded on all sides by 4b) and I have Twilight Zone on Multiflora from Palantine planted last year and it has made it back this spring with about a foot of surviving cane. Our winter temp got to approx -15 at its coldest with wind (though I am on a fairly wind protected property with a northern side of house pine windblock) and this spring we had a nasty 60-70 degree for a week with sun followed by a week of cold down to 5 degrees with a foot of snow and this rose came back just fine. I get my HT's and grandifloras grafted on multiflora but for your alkaline you could try huey. For protection all I did was mound dirt from our property on top about 6 inches. I really love the rose so far but be aware jap beetles love this one (and all HT's haha) and the color on mine is more of a magenta purple than a dark purple. I also have Poseidon and that one has even more surviving cane than this one.
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Thank you !! My zone 5a is colder, -20 below zero, plus our strong wind makes it -30 below zero (windchill factor). Own-roots do great here, but NOT Dr. Huey (doesn't like wet clay).
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#4 of 5 posted
16 APR 17 by
Jerilin
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Dr. Huey hates it here too. I am wet wet wet on my property and the difference between multiflora for me and Huey is huge. Multiflora definitely tolerates wet better. What do you use then? Mainly own root? I use mostly own root too but do buy quite a few multiflora as well but I completely missed Palatine this year. They were completely sold out by like March!! For winter temp I just meant negative 15 with wind is what it got this last winter-LOL!! I am VERY close to 4b and some years can get -25 with wind. I was 4b until the new 2012 usda zone redrawal. I live pretty close to you and also live in the wind capital-yikes! My Huey double delights basically died over the winter. Any suggestions-have you gotten yours to live or tried the own root version. About to give up on DD and try Cherry Parfait and Campfire.
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Two of my own-root Double delight died since I didn't dig deep enough for drainage. Decades ago my Double-delight (grafted on Dr. Huey) barely survive winter. So last year, I dug down past 2.5 feet in my heavy clay for drainage, and RIGHT NOW, Double Delight has 6" of green canes. All the canes are green, no dead canes.
When there's tons of freezing rain through the winter, roses need excellent drainage, plus they survive winter better if it's alkaline.
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There is 'Pretty Lady' and 'Lady Rose', and now there is 'Pretty Lady Rose'.
hah.
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#1 of 19 posted
18 JAN 15 by
jedmar
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'Lady Pretty' will come next year !
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...annnnnnd "Very Pretty Lady", "Pretty, Pretty Lady", "Exceptionally Pretty Lady"....and let's not forget the sports and offspring: "White Pretty Lady Rose", "Red Pretty Lady Rose", ad nauseum.
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How about "pretty chick", "pretty girl", "pretty female", or "hot chick", which are less confusing !!
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I dunno, lol. I don't think a company would ever allow me to name a rose. It would definitely be something sarcastic! :D
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'Stinky Pinky' would be a classy name for a highly-scented pink.
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Ask Trump for some suggestions.
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It is a beautiful rose ... anyone know if this rose is hardy to zone 5 ? Thanks.
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'Old Lush' would be a good name for a rose, I could think of plenty of people it could be named after.....
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Andrew, in keeping with the "lady" theme, that would have to be "Old Lady Lush", lol
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'Cat Lady' . I'd prolly name something 'Cat Lady and the Man Tramp'. Pretty sure that'd be super popular :P
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I'd buy that one, Michael...just so I could tell visitors the name, lol.
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Me too. That is part of the fun in gardening, lol. But marketers would frown.
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It doesn't compete with Tipsy Imperial Concubine, though.
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lmao I never thought about it that way before :D
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We need an Eunuch rose for those 2 trampy roses. Imagine Weeks' next exciting collection of "Lady Tramp, Eunuch, and Concubine" roses.
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The Tipsy one is lovely in summer and autumn, but balls badly in spring in my Mediterranean-type climate. I hoicked it.
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#18 of 19 posted
15 APR 17 by
Jerilin
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I don't have this one yet (getting it this year) but would highly recommend another downtown abbey rose called Anna's Promise. A small own root plant from High Country roses planted relatively late last year has come back with vigor this spring and has surviving cane which is a hard task for a hybrid tea. In addition to this one (Pretty Lady rose) I am trying out Violet's Pride. High Country sells all the downtown abbey roses and they cater to cold zone gardeners and list all of them as zone 5 roses so I would feel comfortable trying them. Hope that helps.
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Native to Northeast Iowa and much of Minnesota. Very hardy. Has grown on my property likely a century through horrible winters. Instead of forming a cohesive connected bush it sends individual canes up along it's roots that branch out near the top. Blooms well in partial/bright shade and is well known for growing in woodlands and blooming in shade. Forms large hips that birds seem to love. Great rose bush for the native garden and supporting wildlife. Will sucker heavily from the roots and quite a distance away. Not for the small garden. I didn't plant it on my property it exists natively here. Native to marshes and very wet environments. One of the three roses native to Iowa including r. Arkansa and r. Carolina.
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