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Nadene 
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28 MAY 21 by
Nadene
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I have been looking into the rose Aimee Vibert located in The Old Parliament House Macarthur Garden. I was unsure if ours was the climber but reading through the comments is it possible that this is the bush form. It has never really taken off and has struggled over the years. The first photo has been posted under Aimee Vibert Climber. I have also found old plaque referencing Aimee Vibert 1828. Any comments on the below photos are welcome. Macarthur Garden, HRG139 H14 - HRG129 G15, photos taken on March 27th (Autumn) 2021.
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The 2019 reference may be relevant.
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Thank you Margaret (on behalf of the photographer!). Current opinion seems to be that it is ‘Nigrette’ so I have reassigned the photo out of ‘Louis XIV’ and into ‘Nigrette’.
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#2 of 3 posted
21 MAY 21 by
Nadene
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Hi everyone,
I have just read up on the comments about the two roses and was wondering what would be the more appropriate for signage. Labelling the rose Louis XIV in commerce as or as Nigrette. The garden was designed with Tea roses in mind so I am going with the assumption that they had initially wanted Louis XIV and received unknowingly Nigrette.
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HelpMeFind has no “ Louis XIV - in commerce” file and ideally your listings should be identical to HelpMeFind so that the Australian members know exactly what is there. So the other alternative is ‘Nigrette’. I am convinced my rose is ‘Nigrette’ because it is a tiny unhealthy squirt of a rose. However, I suspect it may be far too soon to have a set-in-stone label made for a possible Nigrette and that a temporary label should be used for the next five years. If nobody puts up any further objections or evidence in that time, then order the engraved granite name plate.
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This is the colour of ‘Old Blush’. But what then is the white noisette also at this site? See file "Hazlewood SG56 F14"
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#1 of 2 posted
21 MAY 21 by
Nadene
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Hi Patricia, The grid reference that is being used equates to roughly 3m X 3m. It is a borrowed measure for this project. This square in question has Slater's Crimson China, Parkes Yellow Scented China, Humes Blush Tea Scented China and Old Blush all recorded together. The Macarthur Old Blush shares its location with Mevrouw Nathalie Nypels.
The poor little remaining Old Blush is hidden under Humes Blush and Parkes Yellow. Its very spindly and about 60 to 70cm in height.
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I see. Thank you for the explanation.
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Leaf shape and bud colour look odd for 'Old Blush'. Not calling it as incorrect, but might be worth checking. 'Old Blush' has bristly pedicels, if that helps. The photo is a bit out of focus, so I can't tell from this shot.
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#1 of 4 posted
19 MAR 21 by
Nadene
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Hi Give me caffeine, thanks for the feed back. I plan on digging through some more photos and will have a closer look at the buds etc.
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#2 of 4 posted
21 MAY 21 by
Nadene
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This photo is most likely from Hume's Blush Tea-Scented China. Old Blush is growing directly under it. Would you like me to delete this photo or reassign it?
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What OPH was supplied with as Hume's Blush wouldn't have been a rose with continuity of the name, and I don't know what you got. The best candidate for Hume's Blush in Australia is the Rookwood foundling "Agnes Smith".
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Nadene - in the file for "Hazlewood SG56 F14", open the photos page. Ignoring the three names that you have been calling it, are all the photos of the same rose? If so, just leave it there until spring. Then photograph the new growth, and the new buds, side on. In the meantime, look closely at the photos of “Parks Yellow Tea-scented China - in commerce as” photos taken by Sandie Maclean and myself.
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