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'Arcadia' does not have this type of petals: they should be very short similar to 'The Fairy.' Also the color is incorrect. Burlington rose nursery is the only source of the true 'Arcadia' in the world.
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4 MAR 16 by
Gascogne
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This rose, is, in fact, Arcadia, from Burlington. I acquired it from a devout rosarian who purchased it from her. It is authentic.
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I really hope that you are correct. Please note how different the rose I provided to Burling looks in the photos. It would be tragic to have the wrong rose distributed as 'Arcadia' after being rescued from extinction. I hope you will monitor the rose you received to ensure that it does look like the rose in my photos once it gets larger. The petals are very short, the flowers tiny and appear to be sliced off with a knife they are so flat once they are open. The color is red to maroon. I am relying on you to ensure that the wrong rose is not distributed or photographs distributed when we are attempting to ensure Walsh's legacy is not forgotten.
Thank you,
Vernon Brown
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5 MAR 16 by
Gascogne
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Well, all I can do is assure you that the fellow I got my roses from is an avid rosarian, who got many roses from Vintage Roses before they closed over the years, and knows many people in the rose community, inclduing Burling. He told me that only Burling and he have the remaining Arcadia Roses left, and he gave me his, along with nearly 70 other rare vintage/ heirloom roses since he moved.
When I shot these pics, the buds were just opening. You must know as a photographer that the color you see in the screen is not always true or the same as another... Your screen is calibrated differently than mine. Color is affected by time of day, and roses change color depending on the temperature. The cooler the weather, the more intense the colors. Here in Kansas City, it can get quite hot during the late Spring/ early summer when this rose is blooming. Only a few of my dedicated "reds" are deep burgundy RED in intense heat. Also, red is a hard color to photograph; I am not a professional photographer, but I do know when I shoot red roses it never comes out true. I have been absent the last couple summers managing family matters when she (Arcadia) is in bloom but I will post newer photos when I can. The fellow friend of mine would have absolutely no reason to lie or mislead anyone in the rose community. I am, however, surprised that it took this long for someone to dispute the provenance of this one. cheers.
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6 MAR 16 by
Greenman
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I was the person who gave Arcadia to Gascogne. I assure you, it is the same plant I obtained from Burlington's as Arcadia. The roses are more red in person, though I only saw it bloom once before I had to give it away, it was growing enormous and I was in the process of moving. Here is a screenshot of the order I had with Burlingon's: http://prntscr.com/ac46pu Hope this clears up any confusion.. maybe Arcadia is one of those roses that is slightly different in different climates, after all the midwest is quite different from New England where the parent plant is or from California where Burlington's is.
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Thanks for responding. Unfortunately I didn't get a notification from HMF when you responded a couple of weeks ago.
I gave the rose to Burling under the direction of Anne Belovich. Dan Russo identified the rose in Woods Hole, MA where Mr. Walsh had his gardens so the provenance is sound. I appreciate very much your chiming in because I think everyone who worked to bring the rose back into commerce would be very sad if the wrong rose was distributed as 'Arcadia.' Anne has the rose in her collection of American rambler roses and has donated that collection to a garden in TX as a permanent repository.
I am really astonished that the rose looks so different under different growing conditions. You can see my concern if you look at my photos of the rose that Dan identified. I have seen this rose growing for a decade or more and while I certainly can easily identify it on Cape Cod with no problem. I never dreamed it would look so different grown elsewhere.
I hope you and Gascon understand that my only concern is for Mr. Walsh's legacy; I have no personal reason for disputing the identity of the rose in the photo. I hope that in the future Burling will be able to release into commerce all the Walsh roses found in Woods Hole and Falmouth, MA. and that you will enjoy collecting them.
Best wishes,
Sandy Brown
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Rose Listing Omission
High Country Banshee
found rose, for sale at High Country Roses at this link:
http://www.highcountryroses.com/old-garden-roses/damask-roses/banshee-high-country
description at that location also.
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Thanks Greenman., I might just leave this one for American administrators to attend to.
But in the meantime, as High Country knew it as "Banshee" for a long time, I have added their information to the "Banshee" page as a reference .
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Rose Listing Omission
Gloria Steinem
for sale and description here:
http://www.heirloomroses.com/roses/heirloom-roses/gloria-steinem.html
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Thank you. We've added the rose. If anyone knows the breeder, or date........
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Hello sir. I would be very interested in getting cuttings of some of your roses, such as Stanwell Perpetual and other oldies. I live in Lenexa. Please let me know if you wish to share or trade. Thank you, Laura
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13 MAY 13 by
Greenman
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I've sent you a private message about this.
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