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Re: Waltzing Matilda. Bred in Unknown (1963) by John Jack.
Peter Cox 'Australian Roses' p29 writes that John Jack was a third-generation rose nurseryman at Rochedale, Queensland.
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#1 of 6 posted
18 JAN 19 by
bonbon
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I once grew Waltzing Matilda. Between 1968 and 1998 I purchased many roses from Jock Jack. He had a nursery at Wishart and then further out, about ten kms to Rochedale. I liked Gladys Moncrieff. Peter Jack took over the nursery.
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Is your memory of ‘Waltzing Matilda’ more like the 1976 or 1996 reference?
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#3 of 6 posted
12 FEB 21 by
 Johno
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The description of 17 -25 petals is a bit at odds with Christian Dior’s petal count of 45 – 50, along with the downloaded image. I agree with WG Treloar’s comment about stripes and pink flecks that there lacks “enough variegations to be distinctive” in the blooms produced by the WM I grow.
This rose came from Thomas For Roses.
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#4 of 6 posted
12 FEB 21 by
bonbon
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Jock Jack not John Jack was well known to Morrie Duce. Morrie Duce has been a leading light in roses in Brisbane for a very long time. I would go with his 1996 description. He has been a judge for possibly more than thirty years.
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#5 of 6 posted
12 FEB 21 by
Johno
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Thanks for your response Bonbon. I don't disagree. I assume the W G Treloar was the founder of Treloar Roses so it is fair to say he was describing the Jock Jack find.
The query I have is petal count of only 17-25. MR12 does not list a count and I cannot find a reference to the number. Can you remember if your rose had as few as 17 petals?
The second issue is the streaking/flecks and how pronounced this was. Like other roses with streaks and stripes the rose can revert back. How pronounced were the 'flecks' on the rose you grew?
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#6 of 6 posted
13 FEB 21 by
jedmar
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I wouldn't place too much importance to the number of 17-25 petals. MR says "double". This can mean anything from double to very full, unless the number of petals is specifically mentioned. When reflecting "double" in HMF, the standard is 17-25 petals. Possibly this rose is "full". In many cases we have to revise the double designation to a more specific very double, full or very full, when there is additional information on the number of petals.
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7 AUG 20 by
bonbon
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The late David Ruston came to Toowoomba in 2004 and treated the community to his marvellous Old Master style floral arrangements. One of our Darling Downs Heritage Rose regional group members was his lovely assistant. Afterwards, there was the huge cleanup of the leftover plant material, David was quick to hand her plant material and suggested she might strike cuttings. One she was told was “the Edna Walling Rose Victorian version”. She gave me a plant and it is growing in my garden in Highfields, an acreage area of Toowoomba, Queensland. It is pale pink fading to white with green undertones and sends out long arching canes.
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Lovely rose - it will need acreage!
The name should have double inverted commas.
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It would be interesting if, this spring, you could match Passiflora’s photo of ‘White Flight’ wherein it shows buds, bloom and foliage.
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13 JUN 20 by
bonbon
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Loved reading about your garden journey. Did you go to Albany Conference in 2018. I did and it was wonderful.
I came to the Sthn Highlands Conference in 2016 and it ran like a well oiled machine, the gardens were jaw dropping, the lectures informative and David Stone the keynote speaker was fun. Peter Cox’s paintings were superb. Steve and Sue, Clive and Debra and many others ran themselves ragged fir us delegates.
Bonita Cattell
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14 JUN 07 by
Dianne
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Where can I find a Sun Goddess rose plant? Jackson Perkins no longer has it.
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1 FEB 08 by
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Diane, I was wondering if you ever found the Sun Goddess? I too am looking for that rose. It was the sweetest most gorgeous rose I had.. Unfortunately, it died after a long life, but I missit so..
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It’s on the 2018 list at K & M roses.
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#3 of 3 posted
22 APR 20 by
bonbon
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Yes I loved this rose which in my country Australia was sold as ‘Rose of Wagga Wagga’ which is a prosperous town in sheep country in southern New South Wales’. I had the rose for about eight years until extreme drought saw its demise. It lingers in my memory.
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