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Hello,
I would like to know how Angel face roses go to seed? And what I need to do after that?
And when is the best time to do it?
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If you plant seeds of a rose (other than a species rose with no other varieties within pollinating distance), you won't get the same variety from the seeds. If you want more Angel Face from your plant, you'll need to grow it from cuttings (slips).
In general; rose hips can be collected when they are ripe, shown by a change in colour. The outer part contains a growth inhibitor, so it's best to remove the seeds from inside it. They do better with a cold winter, so if you can't provide that, you may want to put them in the vegetable crisper of your fridge for a month or two. One option is to put them in a plastic lunch box (with lid), with seeds arranged on a damp sponge (can fit several layers in the box). The seeds can be planted about 1cm down in sandy or seed-raising potting mix (no fertiliser) in late winter. A broccoli box is traditional (here) but not obligatory! Don't use heat. A local rose society would be able to advise you, especially about whether fungicides are needed, how often you'll need to water, and when to start feeding the plantlets. In general, the ones that are going to be repeat-flowerers should flower in early summer.
(I'm basing my comments on zone 9, where we'd put the box in filtered sun/shade).
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Hello Margert,
Thanks for all the information that you sent to me.
GodBless you always,Pat
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#3 of 4 posted
18 APR 20 by
bonbon
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Thanks Margaret
There is some very good suggestions in your post.
They are most helpful.
Bonita
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Thank you. These days I'd plant in July. Repeat-flowerers should flower by Christmas. (Southern hemisphere).
See Warren Millington's article on rose breeding, in the HRIA Journal of spring 2011, p. 35.
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23 MAR 20 by
bonbon
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I grow both Dick Koster from 1929 with its pink rounded clusters and also Margot Koster polyantha which is orange. Dick Koster grows in a low mounded bush and I can detect a slight perfume.
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I have been watching this one on HMF. the year of introduction + the class makes it seem only partially likely that it was an intentful hybrid. Only a tiny handful of seedling stripes are HT, especially in the 1990s. Also, the color type, which is in the damask pattern (note the red-purple tones over the violet red base) is uncommon in stripes. While it could be an actual seedlings, I am more persuaded that it could be a sport.
I could be wrong, as always, but that was my initial impression. So, one question that could be asked is: Is there an HT type in Aus/NZ that has the same plant type as this rose?
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I have just uploaded a reference for a 1905 'Souvenir de Maria de Zayas', the description of which has reminded me of "Spanish Lady".
I guess the name could sound a bit Spanish to a nurseryman who could not recall the exact name of the rose. I'll search my computer later for any Queensland nurseries carrying 'Souvenir de Maria de Zayas'. Is there any hint of a tea rose in the bush of 'Spanish Lady'?
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Therre are now a few more references in the 'Souvenir de Maria de Zayas' file (with many more not added). I note that Langbecker Nurseries were carrying this rose in 1946. Trewallyn Nursery was established in 1950. It is feasible that Trewallyn obtained some stock from Langbecker.
Can someone add the photo of 'Souvenir de Maria de Zayas' from the 1928 Law Somner catalogue?
Not having the 'Spanish lady' rose to compare, it doesn't sound like it is 'Souvenir de Maria de Zayas' - and the Law Somner photo doesn't look like the HelpMeFind photos of 'Spanish lady'. However........... Maria did have a tea parent, and teas grow in Queensland.
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#3 of 3 posted
16 FEB 20 by
bonbon
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‘Spanish Lady’ grows like a hybrid tea. It is upright, sparsely foliaged, perfumed, medium prickles here. Blooms singly or sometimes with a bloom and a bud.
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Continuing a thread in 'Spanish Lady' photo comments.....
The Queensland Rose Society have replied and they know nothing about 'Spanish Lady'.
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This is odd. Since the rose in question has such a distinctive look, I'd expect that somebody would remember where it came from and what it was. It's not easily forgettable, or at least I wouldn't think so.
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16 FEB 20 by
bonbon
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Older members of QRS in the late 1990’s told me it was a sport of an unknown red rose.
Neville Trebbin left Langbeckers to set up his own Bundaberg nursery which he named Trewallyn the Tre being from Trebbin. The Wallyn part I cannot explain. It is very possible it was never a sport. I smelt the perfume today on my first bloom since recent rains after terrible drought.
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