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Jeri Jennings 
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Alice Flores received this rose directly from Sean McCann as a gift. The rose Sean gave her is a large SINGLE. It has FIVE petals. It is not double or semi-double.
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Has anyone compared "Benny Lopez" (syn "Mystery Santa Barbara Rose") with "Old Town Novato" (syn "Jay's Hudson Perpetual")
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I doubt it. I think some CA gardeners grow both and would surely have noticed if the two cultivars were the same.
I have not seen tall arching growth nor does my plant sucker so far.
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DEFINITELY not the same!
Blooms are similar. Habit is similar. Foliage very different. Vase life different.
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Initial post
14 NOV 14 by
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Some crosses between invasive species scare me a little...
Does this rose show signs of being a yard eater?
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Might.
It will become a massive plant, and it can sucker. Do you need a burglar deterrent?
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Tina Marie is a WHITE sport of Grandmother's Hat, discovered and registered by Vintage Gardens.
The rose discovered by Tom Liggett is Larry Daniels, and it is light pink.
I grow both, and they are not identical.
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Jeri,
Just to confirm - so you're saying we should remove Larry as discoverer for this rose.
Thanks.
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Yes indeed! This rose was discovered at Vintage Gardens by Gregg and Phillip.
They propagated and registered it.
We're among the few who have it, because they've lost it.
But it is planted at the Sacramento City Cemetery, right across from Grandmother's Hat, where it is white, to GH's pink.
VERY different roses, if only different in bloom color.
:-)
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Remove Larry? I don't understand.
But FWIW -- growing them in the same area in my garden, 'Tina Marie' and 'Larry Daniels' are NOT the same rose.
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I think the poster confused "Larry" with the discoverer instead of the rose name.Also, please see Anita's post dated July 3, apparently 2007, in the next thread below this one on the rose page for Tina Marie. She reports that Vintage did not discover it, and that they didn't claim to. Mel verified it in the post above hers.
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