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I am concerned that my Color Magic may have been mislabled. It looks like a pale version of Queen Elizabeth with no strawberry/scarlet blush. Bloom color does not change much with age, sun or temperature. Should I give it more time? I've only owned it eight months.
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I have no experience with this particular rose, but I do know that roses when immature or stressed can throw out blooms that are unlike their 'normal' blooms. Of course, it's also possible that it's simply mislabeled. You might look at your rose's leaves/thorns/habit and compare them to pics of this rose which are listed here and on other rose sites.
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#2 of 3 posted
4 SEP 07 by
Wendy C
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The strange weather this year has many of my roses blooming out of character. My Love and Peace looks like Double Delight... no yellow or orange, which it normally has. I'd give it some time and see if it blooms true when the weather cools.
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#3 of 3 posted
18 DEC 08 by
taddyd
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they are both towering plants but the blooms on Color Magic are MUCH larger.
Have you been able to determine the correct mname yet?
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I just received this rose from Uncommon Rose. Currently it is starting out a typical orange red. I think it should be reclassified as a 'russet' rose.
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The "russet" roses are quite variable, as are the gray ones. With MOST of them, you're going to find a wide variation from oranges to brown. What you're really seeing is usually shades of orange which "blue" much likes the reds often do. Your eye picks this up as brown. Photography most often doesn't as it never interprets, but merely reports the reflected light rays. So, expect to see many different shades in Smoky, as well as Brown Velvet, Black Tea, Victoriana, Jocelyn, Honey Dijon and all the others, depending upon weather, climate, location and all the vagaries of culture.
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#2 of 7 posted
21 JAN 07 by
Loretta
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You may be right about the color variation, but my original oxblood Smoky, and my "Smoky" from Vintage Gardens were planted in the same location, several years apart, so sun and weather were basically the same, yet,,,the color difference was profound! I thought that Vintage had mislabeled the Smoky that I ordered as a replacement when the JP version died, but I actually reordered another plant a year or so later, and it too turned out orange-red yuk!
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#3 of 7 posted
22 JAN 07 by
Anonymous-97434
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Your J&P one was also budded, while all the others you are able to find are own root. That, alone, can produce profound differences. If you go to the Sequoia photos on HMF and take a look at the two photos of Grey Pearl in a green house, you'll see a tremendous difference betwen the two. They are the same clone. One is budded, one is own root. Kim
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#5 of 7 posted
18 AUG 07 by
Unregistered Guest
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Kim,
You state that budded roses appear different than own root roses... In what way? What does the budding process do to the rose that makes it appear different? I have many roses, half own root, half budded. I'm slowly making the conversion to all own root. I'm wondering "color" wise, which is the better way to go... ??
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#6 of 7 posted
10 MAR 08 by
Unregistered Guest
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it seems logical and natural to plant own root; think about it- a grafted rose is artificial, and an own root is the way God intended it. they take a little longer in some cases to produce, but in the long run they are healthier, more disease resistant and in my opinion, better looking without the huge ungainly knot in their stump. all of my grafted roses have troubled me from the get go, but my own root ones are ass-kickers in every possible way. i think eventually all of the grafted roses are going to be given away to friends and replaced with these. BTW i am in the PNWzone 8.
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I am not Kim, but I can tell you that he has written a wonderful article for our Ezine on this topic. Just click on Ezine on the navigation bar to the left, then click EZINE SEARCH and enter "own root" in the SEARCH field (be sure to click the SEARCH button instead of the ENTER key) and all of the articles that mention own root plants will appear. When you read Kim' article, you will learn more than you ever expected to know about the difference between selecting an own root plant and a budded plant.
Smiles,
Lyn
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I owned a Smoky for 2 years (it was shovel pruned this spring) and I experienced the same thing you're describing. However, during the spring and the fall, the color did change to the typical Smoky coloration. It was definitely frustrating and I believe was due to its location in my garden, where it received nearly 10 hours of direct sun daily.
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Would anyone have any tips on the best way to dry rose petals, keeping them whole and retaining some (at least) of the colour? Thanks in advance for any ideas ...
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I hang my roses upside from the baker's rack in my kitchen and let them dry naturally for weeks at a time. The roses dry so well this way that I have used them in displays.
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Thanks very much for your answer. You cut them when they're not very far open, I suppose?
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I've only tried this with florist roses, but I don't see why this wouldn't work with garden grown roses (I just can't seem to make myself cut them off the bush!). When the roses begin wilting (most are fully open, but some are still unopened buds), I tie them together (usually with a rubberband) and then hang them upside. Some people recommend stripping the leaves off, but I don't-I just leave them in place, and they dry very well.
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Thanks for the information ... :-)
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I would like to get advice about photographing roses. When I photograph my light-colored ones, it's hard to get the exposure right so that the details of the flowers are clearly visible. It usually seems too bright on the flowers, even though the exposure seems fine for the foliage. Is it just a matter of learning the right exposure through experience, or is there a tool like a filter (or something) that would help? Thanks.
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In my experience, alot of this has to do with the camera and its abilities. I take alot of rose pics and have not had any difficulty catching details except for on red roses, which is just a particular weakness of my camera (a Nikon Coolpix L4). I'm assuming, of course, that you are using a digital point and shoot camera.
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#2 of 4 posted
28 AUG 07 by
CarolynB
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Thanks for your input. Actually, I don't have a digital camera yet, although I hope to get one soon. Right now, I'm using a 35mm film camera.
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Yes, the problem of red roses does come from the camera. I have a Nikon Coolpix 3700 which is an excellent camera for close-ups of roses - except red. The red shows up as pink. I have just bought a second digital camera - a Canon Ixus 850IS - which gives a true red. I find the detail on close-ups is not quite as good as with the Nikon. I read somewhere that a 35mm camera is better on colours than a lot of digital cameras.
A lot of problems of colour can be solved by taking photos at different times of the day, from different angles, with the source of light in different positions. Perhaps try early morning or evening photos, Carolyn ...
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Nikons are excellent for macro shots! And you're exactly right...try shooting your pics at different times of the day. The worst time in my garden is from approx 11 am-3 pm--too much sun and glare. Too early in the a.m. or too late in the afternoon also yields inconsistent results.
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