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most recent 16 JUN 18 HIDE POSTS
Initial post 16 JUN 18 by Zuzu's Northern California Garden
This entry appears to be a misspelling of Lorise Wojciechowski, for which you already have an entry.
Reply #1 of 1 posted 16 JUN 18 by Patricia Routley
It sure was. Many thanks Zuzu. Now corrected.
most recent 18 MAY 17 SHOW ALL
Initial post 11 OCT 07 by Rosaholic's Southern California Garden
Got a "Rose De Cisterciens" from Hortico two years ago, and it has never bloomed -- not once. The leaves are more "species-like" than any other hybrid tea in my collection and I started discussing this with someone else who got this variety from Hortico within the last several years who had the same experience. Now, we're both wondering if the rose Hortico sends out under this name is really this rose. Anyone else had this experience with a "Rose De Cisterciens"?
Reply #1 of 3 posted 26 JUL 08 by Zuzu's Northern California Garden
I also bought this rose from Hortico, just last year. The leaves on mine are also suspiciously "species-like," but mine actually has bloomed. Unfortunately, the bloom was pure white.
Reply #2 of 3 posted 27 JUL 08 by Rosaholic's Southern California Garden
After much research, mine turned out to be Autumn Damask -- solid pink flowers. I have heard others say they got rootstock (i.e. multiflora). For me, all is well now as Hortico has replaced the misnamed plant, and it has just bloomed this week, AND it was accurately marked. Yippee.
Reply #3 of 3 posted 18 MAY 17 by cadmentr1
I have been looking for this rose for the last 8 years. When you purchased your rose from Hortico, what was the name of the rose that you purchased?

I contacted Hortico just this week and they don't have "Rose des Cisterciens" even listed according to their Customer Service rep Nicole.

If you could give me any information that you used to purchase this rose I would be very grateful. It's my very favourite rose, I had two but lost them in a move from a clay soil home to a sandy soil home.
most recent 7 APR 16 SHOW ALL
Initial post 10 JUL 10 by Zuzu's Northern California Garden
Vintage Gardens' 'Hotel Royal' is not the same as this rose. It's listed as a 1980 Sam McGredy product. Their description is the "cameo pink shot with coral" that follows the "red" description of the color for this other 'Hotel Royal' (1972, McGredy, aka 'Grand Hotel'). I bought one a few years ago from Vintage and I'm very pleased with it. It's a vigorous climber and it is indeed "cameo pink shot with coral." The blooms are semi-double and carried in small clusters.
Reply #1 of 7 posted 12 JUL 10 by HMF Admin
Maybe Greg from Vintage can offer some insight here ?
Reply #2 of 7 posted 5 APR 16 by Michael Garhart
The other rose is 'Hotel Royal'
Reply #3 of 7 posted 5 APR 16 by Zuzu's Northern California Garden
Thank you, Michael. At one time Hotel Royal was only listed as another name for Grand Hotel, but the description didn't match. I'm glad Hotel Royal now has an entry of its own..
Reply #4 of 7 posted 5 APR 16 by Michael Garhart
Thank, Patricia. She did all the ground work. I just followed up, because I noticed no reply to an un-answered dilemma :D
Reply #5 of 7 posted 5 APR 16 by Zuzu's Northern California Garden
Then thank you very much, Patricia. I was finally able to add a photo to the correct entry.
Reply #6 of 7 posted 5 APR 16 by Patricia Routley
I would like to search a little more on 'Hotel Royal' - the lack of references is a little worrying - but can't for the next few days. I now have Sam McGredy's mostly handwritten records but it does take a lot of searching and the eyes aren't too happy lately. Hopefully I will get back to you with more news on 'Hotel Royal'.
Reply #7 of 7 posted 7 APR 16 by Michael Garhart
Patricia, Origin Hunter Extraordinaire, lol.
most recent 17 NOV 15 HIDE POSTS
Initial post 17 NOV 15 by Carrie
Hi Zuzu,
According to the extensive listing of roses in your garden, it appears you might have Mme. Jean Gaujard. I fell completely in love with this rose when I saw it at the San Jose Heritage Rose Garden, and am looking for a source for cuttings.
Any info would be helpful.
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