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'Archiduc Joseph' rose Reviews & Comments
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This is listed as "Archduke Joseph" (with no description) in the Mount Barker Courier of 11 April, 1902, page 3, in an article describing the Aldgate Nursery of Messrs. Smith and Menzel in South Australia.
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I am sure Archduke was a pretty common mis-spelling in Australia. I know ‘Archiduc Charles’ copped it as well for decades.
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I've come across a wonderful example of how names blur. Peach Melba, as a favourite of US sailors eating out at a Barcelona restaurant, became pijama (pyjamas) among the Catalan kitchen staff, and variants of the dish were for a while part of Catalan cuisine. (Wiki).
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#3 of 5 posted
2 MAY 20 by
 HubertG
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Sorry, my point was not really that there was an obvious synonym but that this rose was available at a South Australian nursery rather early on. (Note to self - best not to post at 3am in bed lol).
The Aldgate nursery was also the only nursery in Australia found in old archives so far to have sold 'Albert Stopford', so, as they seemed to have imported a lot of varieties, I do wonder if any foundlings in that region might be rather rare or obscure cultivars.
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Have just come across this posting. Yes, we have found some rarities in the area. Eg what we think is Geschwind's Orden in the next little town, Mylor. And a nice HP, "Mylor Primary", one of the many pink-and-silvers. And the ubiquitous (in southern Australia and NZ) "Hugh Childs".
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#5 of 5 posted
10 days ago by
HubertG
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If I recall correctly, that Aldgate nursey was quite a large affair, so the chances of any foundling from Mylor having been purchased at that nursery are extremely high in my opinion. A nursery list or two from that time would be handy to narrow down the Mylor foundling possibilities.
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18 MAY 20 by
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From Dingee & Conard's 'New Guide to Rose Culture' 1894, page 12:
"New Roses Introduced in 1893 and 1894.
Archduc Joseph (Introduced 1894). - A very vigorous grower; flowers very large and full, cup-shaped, of perfect style; color rose, with bluish tint; centre bright copper with edges of the petals paler. 40 cts each."
["Archduc" is how they have spelt 'Archiduc' in the catalogue.]
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Thanks. Reference added.
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