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Initial post 25 NOV by rafael maino
Can anyone help me identify this rose?, I believe is Rosa majalis
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Reply #1 of 9 posted 30 NOV by Patricia Routley
A wonderfully clear set of photos Raphael. I would help if I could but do not have R. majalis.
I have noted the very glandular sepals on your rose and one of Cass's photos show this trait.
However, the old illustrations show infrastipular (just under the leaf) prickles and your photos show random prickles.
If you would like us to make a temporary special "study file" for your rose, please let us know and give us the "study name" you wish to use.
Alternatively, perhaps other members who grow R. Majalis could give their yea or nay opinion.
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Reply #2 of 9 posted 30 NOV by rafael maino
Thank you very much Patricia for your response!!!, I take this plant from Germany, a suckering from a plant I find there, it resist coming to Patagonia!!!, I will take photos of the leaf (infrastipular), and add to the post, for the moment we can give it a study name "Raff Majalis"???, it's a rose that I want to have for many years, and specially R.majalis plena, or R. cinnamomea plena, but it's very difficult to get it, there are very few nurseries that offer this variety, and the most of are in Europe
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Reply #3 of 9 posted 30 NOV by Andrew from Dolton
It is very similar to R. cinnamomea 'Plena' from the photographs, I have R. cinnamomea 'Plena' if you would like some.
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Reply #4 of 9 posted 30 NOV by rafael maino
Thank you for your comment, Andrew!!!, and Thank you again for your kindly offering, I will let you know if I or a friend travel to UK, so you can give me/or to a friend a little suckering of R. cinnamomea plena, and I will be so happy to take it to my garden in Patagonia!!!
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Reply #5 of 9 posted 30 NOV by rafael maino
I add photos of the leaves and flowers (close up)
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Reply #6 of 9 posted 30 NOV by Patricia Routley
Andrew, there is
R. cinnamomea plena. Syn. Double Cinnamon. and
R. cinnamomea. Syn. Single Cinnamon Rose.
Rafael's rose is single.

Rafael, I might have mislead you a little with my words "infrastipular (just under the leaf) prickles". They are just under the leaf, but are placed on the stem. This type of prickle is most clearly shown in the illustration that Cass has added of R. Cinnamomea (photo no. 78512) from John Lindley's Rosarum Monographia (1820), Tab 5 after p. 28.
I have opened a file for "Raff Majalis". Will you be able to move your photos to that file?
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Reply #7 of 9 posted 30 NOV by rafael maino
Hi Patricia, I just take a new photo of the "under the leaf", but on the stem where are placed two prickles, just a moment and I add this photo
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Reply #8 of 9 posted 30 NOV by Patricia Routley
i will respond further in "Raff Majalis".
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Reply #9 of 9 posted 1 DEC by rafael maino
Thank you Patricia, I add 14 photos to "Raff Majalis", and please let me know if this is the authentic Rosa majalis or R. cinnamomea
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