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Discussion id : 133-631
most recent 24 SEP 22 SHOW ALL
 
Initial post 4 JUL 22 by peterdewolf
I have a climber from Tantau, Camelot, which has produced two vigorous canes that look deformed to my amateur eye. One cane is from below ground and the other is above ground and well above any graft area. This is its first year. Are these just weird 'sports' as opposed to common suckers ?
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Reply #1 of 4 posted 8 JUL 22 by Palustris
Once the foliage is more developed you should be able to determine, from the canes and foliage, that the shoot coming from beneath the graft is different from 'Camelot'. Try to break it off the main root. Let the foliage for the above the graft cane develop. If it looks different from the disease free foliage, then you need to determine what is wrong with the plant.
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Reply #2 of 4 posted 8 JUL 22 by peterdewolf
Thank you for the advice. Both canes seem to have stopped developing. Not getting any taller, not developing the foliage into proper leaves ? It's as if the development has frozen but other leaves on the original canes are normal and the flowers are developing normally also on the original canes. I'll continue to monitor the plant. Thanks again
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Reply #3 of 4 posted 9 JUL 22 by HubertG
It looks a little bit like damaged growth from accidental glyphosate spray drift. Could this be a possibility?
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Reply #4 of 4 posted 24 SEP 22 by peterdewolf
Sorry, only seeing this now. The only thing thats sprayed in my garden is dilute soapy water for aphids and a dilute solution containing sulphur, oil, Epsom salts and bicarbonate of soda to control BS and Mildew. And no other gardeners adjacent to me ( they grow barking dogs here, not flowers ) and no spraying from adjacent farmland which is grazing land only.
These canes sat dormant for several weeks then leafed out. Curious thing is none of them flowered and have still not flowered. I have two Camelots in large tubs either side of my porch and one of them grew 'normally' and did flower, not a huge flush but it did flower. The growth in the suspect plant is identical to it's partner rose, in leaf form etc so not suckers as I first thought.
I finally got someone form Tantau to comment and he claims the plant is growing like this and refuses to flower because it's in a pot. This is a big pot, 60x40 cms by 40 cms high.
Next season I'll cut out the bottom of it, lift the pavers beneath it, amend the soil and let it grow downwards and see how it does.
Thanks for the response
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Discussion id : 130-929
most recent 31 DEC 21 HIDE POSTS
 
Initial post 31 DEC 21 by Margaret Furness
What's the simplest way for someone without access to a laboratory (but could manage a microscope) to assess a rose's ploidy?
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Discussion id : 130-858
most recent 25 DEC 21 HIDE POSTS
 
Initial post 25 DEC 21 by HMF Admin
... And now wishing everyone a happy, and healthy(!), holiday.
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Discussion id : 129-823
most recent 25 NOV 21 HIDE POSTS
 
Initial post 25 NOV 21 by HMF Admin
Wishing a happy and safe Thanksgiving to all that celebrate.
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