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23 MAR 18 by
rozica
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I would be very happy if you could help me with identifying this rose. I'm from Croatia (country in Central and South-east Europe, on the Adriatic Sea), so it's pretty worm at summer. This rose grows in a bush shape, the bush is around 1.5 meters high and wide and her flowers have strong and beautiful smell. The rose bush is probably around 100 years old, and she starts blossoming in May. It does bloom only for about a month, it does have a lot of flowers, but they don't last too long. It looses leaves in winter.
Here are some images which I posted in another forum, but unfortunately they werent able to help me. They said it's probably an Old Garden Rose.
Thank you in advance :)
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You might try looking through Bourbon roses at HMF.
I suppose Geschwind's roses would have been sold in Croatia?
How cold are your winters?
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#2 of 11 posted
23 MAR 18 by
rozica
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I looked to every single one of them, and I haven't managed to fined it. Is it possible that it's a type of Damask roses?
The scent of this rose is very strong, and it smells like rose water. My mother made syrup out of her petals.
It is not lower than -10 Celsius.
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I think it is a Damask. It reminds me of Joasine Hanet (Damask Perp., Vibert, 1847) which has more of a button eye than I can see in your photos.
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If 'Joasine Hanet' is the same rose as "Portland from Glendora", which is by no means certain, JH does repeat bloom. I do grow PfG, and I doubt the identity with the rose in the photos. PfG has a not unattractive but rather odd four lobed configuration of petals which I don't see in the photos. The color of PfG is a lighter, more lavenderish pink than the pictured rose and the blooms are smaller. In a more favorable climate, such as I imagine would be found in coastal Croatia, the flowers would be bigger but there would surely be blooms throughout the summer.
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#5 of 11 posted
24 MAR 18 by
rozica
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If it's going to help here is some more photos.
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Rozica are the flowers always so crowded together such as your last two photos show? I agree it is not the 'Joasine Hanet' possible rose. It looks larger and looser and lighter. The crowded flower buds remind me of a Portland but the shine of the leaves seems to say hybrid china to me.
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#7 of 11 posted
26 MAR 18 by
rozica
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Yes, flowers are always crowded together. The flower is pretty fragile actually, petals are easy to rip off.
Yes, the leaves are shiny and soft, but the thorns are thick and really sharp.
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Is there ever any repeat bloom Rozica?
It is a beautiful rose and the fragrance sounds divine!
Have you given it a study name?
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#9 of 11 posted
26 MAR 18 by
rozica
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No, it blooms only in late spring (end of April throughout May).
Should I give it a name? Feels like such an honor :)
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If you do give it a study name, an entry can be made for it here on HMF and you can add photos and information and others can access it easily. If you do find its original name, the file can then be merged with that file and your study name added as a synonym so the recent history of the rose in your part or the world becomes a part of the story of this rose. I think you honour the rose by giving it a study name while you try to find its original identity but if you are unsure about doing this, do people in the community have any sort of name for it? I'm thinking it's probably referred to as something like "That old rose with the beautiful fragrance on the xxxx road" so if it doesn't already have a local name, who better to give it a study name than someone who cares about it?
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#10 of 11 posted
26 MAR 18 by
 Nastarana
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I was wondering hybrid Bourbon, which is perhaps much the same thing as hybrid China.
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