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Initial post 13 FEB 20 by B R SAYERS
Hi Cliff hope you can help me, I live in Gloucester, England and I see you had a rose in 2011 called City of Gloucester, do you still have it. Here in England I can no longer get this rose. Please can you contact me.
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Reply #1 of 5 posted 13 FEB 20 by Kim Rupert
Hi, this isn't Cliff. You messaged through an archive of what Cliff had when he operated his Euro Desert Roses Nursery, which he closed several years ago. The roses listed on this archive is what he HAD years ago and no longer exist. Due to health issues, he isn't engaged in the "rose business" any longer. I'm sorry.
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Reply #2 of 5 posted 14 FEB 20 by B R SAYERS
Hi and thank you very much for taking the trouble to make contact. Very sorry to here of Cliffs bad health. Now I am stumped a bit have no contact leads in America oh well must keep trying to find this rose.
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Reply #3 of 5 posted 14 FEB 20 by Kim Rupert
Hi, no trouble. I understand the "want" without being able to "have". Unfortunately, unless you can find the rose in a US nursery which exports, there wouldn't be a way for you to obtain it from the US. Several years ago, Week's Roses committed an unthinkably stupid error. They received "research material" for their Rose Rosette Disease research program and intensely stupidly propagated it IN their commercial production fields. Rose Rosette Disease had NOT been an issue in the Wasco, California rose production fields UNTIL Week's brought it in and then infected heaven knows how much material over three or four YEARS before discovering it. Depending upon whom you believe, they either "took Herculean efforts and contained it all", or they did what they thought they had to do and who knows how much of the disease they spread around the world?". From personal experience, German nurseries were already highly neurotic about receiving RRD infected material. Once the potential spread of the Week's infection became known, it became even more difficult to export material from this country. And, I do NOT blame the receiving nurseries one bit.

Reportedly, City of Gloucester grows in Sangerhausen in Germany and Fineschi Garden in Italy. Perhaps if you contacted the Beales Nursery there in Britain or Bierkreek in The Netherlands, one of them may be able to obtain propagation material from one of those gardens and bud you some plants of the rose?
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Reply #4 of 5 posted today by Bug_girl
So what happened to all of Cliff's roses?
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Reply #5 of 5 posted today by Kim Rupert
Many were sold and/or given away to good, loving homes. Some were taken to his new home and planted. The last I knew he still had a garden. With heat, water and time, I don't know what may still be there.
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Initial post today by Bug_girl
Hi Cliff! Just found your garden. The high desert one was so impressive! This low desert one ain't too bad either! What happened with all the roses you had at your old nursery? I am just hoping they are somewhere in a garden or a collection or something. The amount of roses that you had is amazing!
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Initial post today by Bug_girl
This is lovely!
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Initial post yesterday by Jack1
Registered with ARS in March of 2024
Paddy Stephens X Dick Clark
light to moderately fragrant,
30 to 35 pedals, foliage dark green and glossy.
I registered it as "Smell this one!"
I was very surprised that it is fragrant since most of my seedlings are not.
thank you for catching my month mistake.
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Reply #1 of 2 posted yesterday by Patricia Routley
May?
Registered name?
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Reply #2 of 2 posted today by Patricia Routley
That’s okay.
You do know you can add your own roses, don’t you? Contact Admin to help with this. See SITE FEATURES / CONTACT US.
Otherwise, we can help from here.

I see a discrepancy in the seed parent’s name. You say, above, it was ‘Paddy Stephens’. Modern Roses are saying ‘Pinkerbelle’. ?
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