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most recent 16 JAN 18 HIDE POSTS
 
Initial post 10 JAN 18 by ofous
Writer Karel Capek share garden with his brother, painter Josef Capek. In front of southern facade, exactly on border between brothers, there is a rose, today shrub more than 2m tall, probably one´s trimmed as climber. Large semi-double clear yellow to golden yellow (later pale creamy yellow) come early in mid May. Fragrant. Ocassionaly repeat in October, even November. Shiny leaves stay long until winter. Buds have a orange tips or edges, but this colour rarely stay until full bloom. Big rounded light orange hips with shallow regular grooves and long bracts. Later flowers roll petals and fade in colour. Petioles and branches only slightly red. All structure very strong and robust, but no thorny. Photos from May 18 and October 17.

Similar Rose grow in Bornim, Karl Foerster garden, Lichtkönigin Lucia, but much orange in buds. By character of shrub and flower is close also to Maigold, not by colour. In Sängerhausen I found several with similar flowers, f.e. Lawrence Johnston, Lady Sonia, La Reve, King Midas, Dukat, Frisia, Allgold and few others.
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Reply #1 of 12 posted 10 JAN 18 by Andrew from Dolton
Have a look at 'Lady Hillingdon'.
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Reply #2 of 12 posted 10 JAN 18 by Margaret Furness
No - I'm not good at identifying roses, but the colour of Lady Hillingdon is one you can recognise from a long distance away - more ochre than yellow; and it sets few hips.
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Reply #3 of 12 posted 15 JAN 18 by Kim Rupert
It's much closer to Golden Showers than Lady Hillingdon.
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Reply #4 of 12 posted 15 JAN 18 by ofous
Golden Showers is very close by type of flower, but this rose flower only in May/June with very rare flowers in Sept/Oct
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Reply #5 of 12 posted 15 JAN 18 by Kim Rupert
When you rub the sepals, peduncles and new growth tips, do you detect any plant scents from them? It appears to be related to Foetida and that species frequently gives those parts a very "fruity" scent when they are rubbed. We have a very long running chewing gum, Juicy Fruit, which often has a very similar scent to these parts with Foetida influence. You may need to wait until Spring to detect it in the very fresh, soft new growth. It appears to have the Foetida connection. The presence and strength of those plant scents will help determine how closely related it may be to the species.
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Reply #6 of 12 posted 15 JAN 18 by ofous
Good advice, thank you. I will try. Some detail relate to pimpinellifolia, but foetida is, oh course, also in game.
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Reply #7 of 12 posted 15 JAN 18 by Margaret Furness
Is it too yellow, and not thorny enough, for Leverkusen?
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Reply #8 of 12 posted 15 JAN 18 by ofous
Leverkusen is pale (like older flowers of Capek´s rose) and more regular double, more gentle shape of flower. IMHO
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Reply #9 of 12 posted 16 JAN 18 by Jay-Jay
Could You describe the scent of the flowers?
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Reply #10 of 12 posted 16 JAN 18 by ofous
Sorry, I can´t compare with other roses at the moment, generally is not strong scent, but we will know more in May
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Reply #11 of 12 posted 16 JAN 18 by Patricia Routley
Ofous, you might like to read the Plant Patents for both 'Golden Showers' and 'High Noon'. Do a three column comparison of the charactistics of your rose, and these two.
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Reply #12 of 12 posted 16 JAN 18 by ofous
Both of them are very close in several details, but both flowering throughout the season.
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