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Is there a way I can look up roses by whether or not they bear ornamental hips?
Linda
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#1 of 21 posted
10 FEB 18 by
Jay-Jay
This author wrote two books about "nature-near" roses and has a lot of info in them about hips: http://www.helpmefind.com/gardening/l.php?l=6.21959&tab=1 Will post some more URL's in oncoming replies...
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#2 of 21 posted
10 FEB 18 by
Jay-Jay
From the second book: https://www.naturgartenplaner.de/buchshop/aktuelle-buecher/naturnahe-rosen-band-2-kletter-und-kleinstrauchrosen/naturnahe-kletterrosen-und-rambler-s-10-13-16-20-22-24-25-27-30-2-35-37-41-44-47-53/
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#3 of 21 posted
10 FEB 18 by
Jay-Jay
From his first book: https://www.naturgartenplaner.de/buchshop/aktuelle-buecher/naturnahe-rosen/naturnahe-gartenrosen-s-68-69-71-73-75-80-86-87-92-94-99-101-105-111-113-122-124-127-131-133-137-138-144-146-151-154-161-163-166-170/
A very long URL, but very informative, how the book's lay-out is.
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#4 of 21 posted
11 FEB 18 by
Jay-Jay
To HMF administrators: It would indeed be nice, if this would be part of advanced search... and a description for different forms/types of hips. Whether they have moss, glands, or prickles.... etc. etc.
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#5 of 21 posted
11 FEB 18 by
lbuzzell
Many thanks and I second the idea of adding this to the advanced search!
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It is already possible to search; from 'Advanced Search', choose 'Growing'. Scroll down to 'Growing Notes Selection', and choose 'Produces decorative hips' (5th choice from the bottom).
Best regards, Virginia
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#7 of 21 posted
12 FEB 18 by
Jay-Jay
You're right Virginia, but that's a very crude tool. I meant a more sophisticated-one. When one searches for decorative hips, lots and lots of roses pop-up. But whether the hips those roses produce are particularly attractive and or special is not clear.
Most roses produce hips and all hips are decorative in my humble opinion. Comparing to the number of flower-photo's, the hip-photo's are a minority... if they are at all present for that rose.
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Since most rose references don't describe- or even mention- hips, this is a case where users can help by leaving info that furthers the scope of rose descriptions. HMF volunteers assemble these descriptions from references + user comments and photos. I don't doubt that there are plenty of rose records that ought to have an indication that the hips are attractive, but don't.
I agree that photos of hips will be the most useful tool if you want to decide how special or decorative a rose's hips are; beauty being in the eye of the beholder. I would also like to see more photos of hips, and other plant details that can help with identification.
Cheers, Virginia
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#9 of 21 posted
12 FEB 18 by
Jay-Jay
And hips don't just look pretty they can be a great help in identifying different varieties and species too.
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#11 of 21 posted
12 FEB 18 by
Jay-Jay
And during the last sting of Winter, the birds found them interesting too, to eat. They didn't seem to care about which color or form.
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So there's a timely reminder to take those photos of your rose hips before the birds eat them! :>)
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#15 of 21 posted
12 FEB 18 by
Jay-Jay
I already often photograph hips and prickles/stems of roses. I really like those of Scharlachglut (they are nicely formed and big too) and those of Splendens are worth mentioning.
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#12 of 21 posted
12 FEB 18 by
lbuzzell
Hips also have culinary uses and as far as I know there's nowhere on the internet that assesses rose hips for taste. All I could find is that R. rugosa seems to be recognized by many people has having the tastiest hips. Unfortunately R. rugosa doesn't do well in our Mediterranean climate. Iceberg, Bonica, Old Blush, heritage climbing tea rose Madame Berard all provide hips in our garden. Mme Berard's hips are the largest by far, like little apples.
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You might find this information to be of interest. Apparently R. californica has tasty hips, and should do well in your Med climate: https://www.gardenweb.com/discussions/1711637/best-tasting-rose-hips?n=9 There are related discussions at the same (searchable) forum.
Virginia
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Jay-Jay only Rosa virginiana hips don't seem to be eaten by the birds. They are so bullet hard they almost hang on until flowering time. My mother destroyed my milk teeth with rose hip syrup and Ribena (black current syrup) that was given to infants in their bottles in the late 1960's recommended as "health" foods! Last year I crystallised Rosa canina hips and used them to decorate my Christmas cake I was going to take a picture but it had already started to be eaten before I realised and it was too late.
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#17 of 21 posted
12 FEB 18 by
Jay-Jay
I grow that rose in our garden, but was never tempted to eat the hips, for they are prickly. The hips of the Chestnut-rose taste like pine-apple.
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Rosa roxburghii hips never go any colour with me other than green. They often all fall off the plant altogether often in the space of two or three days.
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#19 of 21 posted
12 FEB 18 by
Jay-Jay
Take a look at this photo, the accompanying text and the comments: http://www.helpmefind.com/rose/l.php?l=21.222891&tab=1
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Oh that's interesting. I will definitely see what mine smell like this year. Last year we had two hard frosts at the end of April, that did massive amounts of damage to commercial orchards and vine yards and stopped my Rosa roxburghii from flowering so no hips. In China apparently they are made into wine. http://www.helpmefind.com/rose/l.php?l=66.3349&tab=3
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#21 of 21 posted
13 FEB 18 by
lbuzzell
Many thanks, Virginia!
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