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'Cornelia' rose Reviews & Comments
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19 FEB 10 by
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I planted Cornelia last spring too and was surprised at the number and ferocity of the thorns. I planted it near a gate thinking it was nearly thornless. The thorns are small but vicious. I didn't notice the black thorns, I'll try to keep an eye on it and report back. Right now it's under 6" of snow! It's a beautiful flower, I may move it but I'll definitely keep it.
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Thank you for the report about thorns. Just got painfully poked by Lagerfeld, which is "low-thorn".
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If the description is accurate, I don't think the rose grown as Cornelia in Australia (or to narrow it down, by me) is the same. Mine has flowers about 5 cm (2 inches) across, similar in size to Trier 1904. It opens coral-pink and fades to pale pink, and is very floriferous.
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This is interesting Margaret. The majority of the references say "small" and I am sure we have the original "small flowered" rose in Australia. However, in addition to the 1932 "3 inches" reference, there were three references which said "large" - 1933, 1947 and 1954. I feel that perhaps the authors may have intended to say "large sprays of small flowers".
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My 'Cornelia' is also quite thorny. Not thornless, or even almost. Moderately well armed would be more true of my specimen (from MD).
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Mine is thornless (as far as I looked).
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Various sized trusses of small flowers and some bits thorny, some bits thornless here. On the years it was pruned back harder, the trusses were larger and the blooms a bit bigger. Love the contrast between the colour of the buds and the colour of the blooms and the somewhat languid growth that makes it such a useful, malleable rose in a variety of situations. Ours are on rough bush tripods and they seem equally happy on arches, pillars and fences. Jane Zammit advised making time to trim the spent blooms to encourage new flowering shoots but the hips are absolutely charming if you run out of time to dead head.
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A Caveat: Cornelia HATES being transplanted!!!! I took a well rooted, young plant that was going gangbusters between Quietness, r. palustris, and r. mutabilis and put it in its final spot near a fence....oooh it hated that! I had put it in the original spot because it needed extra care because it was tiny....well...that changed...FAST! I knew I could not leave her there...will see how she does in the new spot.
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Very, very helpful - THANK YOU for taking the time to share your experience.
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It has buds like Leonie Lamesch, which also loathes being transplanted or pruned. Makes ya wonder :]
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I got this rose from Antique Rose Emporium (an excellent nursery) and planted in Dallas TX in the extreme summer of 2011. It was in shade getting only morning sun. It covered a trellis in one season providing the most equisite porcelan-like salmon pink flowers with a delicate perfume. I think in time the flowers would be larger as these were very small 1"-2" size but in long trusses. It was almost thornless save for those occassional small black prickles which are very sharpe. I love this little rose and plan to plant it again here in OH.
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#1 of 3 posted
6 JAN 14 by
hebe
The flowers on my one are only 1" across too, and it is now in it's 3rd year. I have grown it previously, and that one also had flowers only 1" across. Also, I did transplant a 1yo plant, which took off, despite neglect. However, I discovered later, it was benefiting from a leaking sewer. As there was, oddly enough, no smell from the sewer, it benefited for quite a long time!
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Hi Hebe, Glad you like this little rose too...well, small flower, big plant. I'm happy you commented as I had forgotten about this little beauty. Lost 16 bushes to rose rosette last summer so I can use this as a replacement! If you like smallish climbers I got an real find at Hortico last year..."Awakening"- trusses of porcelain pink blooms and it's thriving on a mostly shady north facing wall...good luck...John in Cinci
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#3 of 3 posted
7 JAN 14 by
hebe
Hi John, Yes, I've long wanted 'Awakening', but where to put it? If 'Adelaide D'Orleons' doesn't perform (growing up a small tree), I may well replace her with it though.
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