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'TANmirsch' rose Reviews & Comments
Discussion id : 20-572
most recent 28 JUL 07 HIDE POSTS
 
Initial post 28 JUL 07 by Judith C.
Drought and heat resistant. Very long flowering season.
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Discussion id : 12-617
most recent 7 JUL 06 SHOW ALL
 
Initial post 12 JUN 06 by Unregistered Guest

I have found rose 'Creme Brulee' PPAF (?), and planted about 12; they are doing quite well; problem is I can't find any information about them; insects, diseases, and most important:  winter (low temperature).. They seem to be a stealth rose!  I live in New York north of NYC, and the low temperature can be -10 to about O, for short periods.  How do I protect them?


Thanks,


Hubert 'Butch' Boyd



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Reply #1 of 12 posted 4 JUL 06 by Jody
Hi did you ever find out anything about this rose? the  pix on the site is really pretty but there seems to be no info anywhere on it on the net. If the place you got it from can't help you, you might e mail Roses of Yesterday and Today in Oregon. They do not list it but they might know of it or know something about it. They specialize in rare and unusual roses. If all else fails, I would mulch it really well and cover the bases of the bushes come winter with burlap or other heavy covering. I do not live in a climate with winters quite so cold but I mulch and then use either burlap or heavy duty plastic garbage bags. When it gets to 20 I cover the whole bush with blue tarps.  Good luck with this rose!!
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Reply #2 of 12 posted 4 JUL 06 by Hubert Boyd

Thaks indeed for your reply.  They are gorgeous, but don't last long.  Ever-bearing, but needs to be because the soft low, breezy sound you hear is the petals falling to the ground.!  I looked everywhere, but no luck.  The greenhouse I bought them from won't divulge their source, so I can't go direct, I suppose, but I suspect they could get the information I want for me.  Is there a way keep the roses from dropping so fast?  Like a feeding, or pruning, etc?  I love roses but I am pretty much a neophyte about them.  Just built some flowerbeds and am learning how to plant things so they look 'intentional' .  I know what I want, or picture in my mind, but don't have the middle knowledge to get me there. 


Thanks again,


Hubert 'Butch' Boyd,


bboyd3@verizon.net


 

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Reply #3 of 12 posted 5 JUL 06 by Jody
Hi as far as the blooms not lasting. I don't know of anything you can do to make them last. I could be wrong but I think it is just the characteristics of that rose. I have the Gallica, Apothecary,  that is like that. they last a day or so. Also the Rosa Rugosa Rubra (my fav rose) doesn't last long. It seems like the Floribunda and hybrid teas last longer. If you want a hardy rose though, try the rugosa. R. Rugosa rubra (pink) grows wild in Alaska and seem to thrive just about anywhere with no care. (no pruning, no fertilizing)  I meant to say earlier for a mulch you can use something like wood chips, bark, sawdust or hay. whatever is available to you. You may just have to experiment with what does well in your weather. I particularly like a book called The Organic Rose Garden by Liz Druitt. your Library might have it. Maybe this will help you some.  I am really surprised there is no info on this rose. I wonder if it goes under  another name? sometimes breeder change the name. well good luck. this is a great site for info!! do you have other roses? or is this your only one?
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Reply #5 of 12 posted 5 JUL 06 by Hubert Boyd

I started a number of Charles Albanel, created in Canada; so far they are producing lots of blossoms, but again with short half-life.  I also have a nameless bush with white flowers; these last much longer but the stems are skinny and weak, letting them droop over. It is hardy as all hell, and has to be pruned back several times.  Don't know enough about roses yet to start identifying it.


Also have something caled Sunny Sunblaze in a large pot; it has several small creamy-yellow blossoms, but produces very slowly. 


My goal is to have about 5-6 varieties so I can have flowers all season.  I will erect an arbor and start some climbing roses next year. 


I'm sure you are right about the early dropping, it is very likely a characteristic of the plant.


 


Thanks agin for your advice.  Much appreciated!

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Reply #6 of 12 posted 5 JUL 06 by Jody
Hi I looked up your Charles Albanel. it is a really pretty hybrid Rugosa so should be very hardy. The rugosa tend to have blossoms with short life span. (not all but most) If you want one with longer lifespans maybe for a climber you'd rather go with a Hybrid tea?  like Don Juan? a deep red.  anyway, Good Luck with your roses. I have on order a book from Amazon of old roses and I will look for Creme Brulee when I get it. I am wondering if it is another rose and been renamed. It seems odd that there is no info on it. The shape of the petals reminds me of a yellow Lady Banks but it really doesn't look like one. By the way the oldest rose in the world is a white Lady Banks, 121 years old, 8,000 sq feet, in Tombstone, AZ.   Jody     to see that rose go to www.mediterraneangardensociety.org/plants/Rosa.banksiae or search under Lady Banks Rose
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Reply #7 of 12 posted 6 JUL 06 by Hubert Boyd

You are a real blessing, an Angel of Roses!  I'll take your advice, and most seriously, but have just begun to consider what would work/look right on the arbor.  I have built four raised flower beds in a very formal arrangement, square, rectangle, rectangle and square, in a semi-rectangular arrangement., the fourth side is a tall hedge.  The arbor will go in an open area just outside the arragement, and must 'fit' into the overall scheme.  I'm looking for ever-bearing, strong stemmed, plants that will have a lot of blooms over a considerable growing period.  Color not too important, as long as it doesn't clash with the Creme Brulee and the Charles Albenals, that is, no pink for example.  Something 'dusty' sounds right.  I have a vision, but not any skill, sort of like my relation to classical music: I revel in it, but couldn't play a note.  Appreciation, but not production!


As an aside, I am beginning to think there is a lot of snake-oil marketing in roses; just make up something and sell it like hell!  Too many cute names, and too little information.  Since I was able to buy them two years in a row, I would expect more information to be available, so you may be right and the name has been changed 'to protect the innocent' .  My biggest worry is that I may have sunk some serious money in a plant that only flourishes in tropical swamps!  So far there is no evidence of fungus, mod, blight or insect problems.  The blooms are appreciated in the office, where they look great for about 36 hours, and provide a wonderful but mild scent.  But I have more in 24 hours, so I am greeted warmly just about every morning.


 


Regards,


Hubert 'Butch' Boyd

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Reply #4 of 12 posted 5 JUL 06 by Jody
Hi on this site under available from,  under creme brulee it lists Perennial Grace Nursery in Georgia. I went to their site but you have to e mail to get their listing. maybe you can e mail them and ask what they know about this rose. even if they no longer carry it, they may know something about it.  Good Luck
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Reply #8 of 12 posted 6 JUL 06 by Hubert Boyd

Sent an email, let's see what comes back!


Butch

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Reply #9 of 12 posted 7 JUL 06 by Hubert Boyd

Got a nice reply, "hardy to zone 5, easy to grow, no pest problems, our folks like it!"  So now I know.


Butch

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Reply #10 of 12 posted 7 JUL 06 by Jody
Hi That's great they replied to you. so now you can be assured with some mulching they will be ok for winter.You were saying you wanted a dusty colored rose. I saw one in book called Lafter, a Hybrid tea. I wonder if this would work for you. or maybe you'd rather go with New Dawn or White Dawn? you might post asking people what they like in such a color and would be a good , long lasting cut flower since you like cut flowers. I never cut any of mine except to dead head since my whole family is very allergic I have to enjoy the fragrance in the garden. I posted a mystery rose today to the ID site. I have one that every blossom is different and I have no idea what it is. have you read Wendy column on the ezine section, Roses 101? she has some good ideas there, that might help you some?  Glad you got at least some info.. Jody
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Reply #11 of 12 posted 7 JUL 06 by Jody
Butch, on the Ezine page is an article by Karl on how to care for roses in Oct, Nov, Dec. He is in Michigan. so I am not sure how close to your climate it is. it might give you some advice. I don't do it this way. he waits until a hard freeze to cover. I do it before but you might get some pointers  Jody
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Reply #12 of 12 posted 7 JUL 06 by Hubert Boyd

I'll look at your suggestions; just a beginner at this so I have to do a lot of homework.  I'll keep you posted.  A pity you can't enjoy your flowers indoors.  Imagine being allergic to roses! I'm buying the arbor this week so I can have it well set up for next season. 


Butch

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Discussion id : 10-224
most recent 3 OCT 05 HIDE POSTS
 
Initial post 3 OCT 05 by Jean Marion
Info from CRL - white 2005
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