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'Single Musk' rose Reviews & Comments
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Rosa moschata (syn.: m. var. R. nastarana), musk rose (Pers. nastaran), a climbing shrub, 10-12 m high, with white flowers growing in corymbs or cymes and rarely solitarily. This species is “at present only known in cultivation and [is] often naturalized in Southwest Asia, North Africa, and South Europe
. According to some authors, its country of origin is the Mediterranean [area], and according to others it is Iran” (Zieliński, p. 26). As nastaran-e širāz(i) “Shiraz musk rose,” it is cultivated in many places in Persia, particularly in Fārs, where the fragrant ʿaraq-e nastaran (musk rose distillate, see GOLĀB) is extracted and commercialized.
http://www.iranicaonline.org/articles/gol
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Available from - Rose Petals Nursery http://rosepetalsnursery.com/rose.php?pid=682&cid=4&rose=Graham%20Thomas%20Single%20Musk
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A small correction may be in order. I see a rose listed here as Rosa moschata 'Graham Thomas Old Musk'. I'm not sure where this form of the name comes from, but I am getting some flack for "naming" a rose after Mr. Thomas, when David Austin already uses the name for 'Ausmas'.
Many years ago, we imported this rose from Peter Beales. Since it was the single form of the musk rose, apparently identical to the single musks found in the Carolinas and Virginia, we called this one "Graham Thomas's Musk" to differentiate it from anybody else's musk -- using his name strictly in the possessive form, to indicate its discoverer/introducer. Since then, the name has morphed in several ways. But for good clarity, I'd suggest that we continue to refer to it as "Graham Thomas's Musk," and then ONLY if it is a plant whose known provenance is that original plant of Mr. Thomas's. The name should not be associated with any of the American finds by John and Marie Butler, Ruth Knopf, Charles Walker, and others, since it merely indicates provenance, not a unique variety.
Thanks for considering it!
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Name changed. Please check that the foundling "double quotes" are in order.
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9 MAY 15 by
mmanners
Thanks! That looks good.
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23 OCT 14 by
Hardy
Pietro Andrea Mattioli's 'De plantis epitome utilissima Petri Andreae Matthioli' (Francofurti ad Moenum, 1586) says on page 98,
"Domesticae et si plura Plinio sint genera, nostra tamen euo tria tantum in usum venerunt videlicet puniceum, album, et quod carnis colorem refert. In albo genere ea est admodu ordorata, qua Moschetam, et Damascenam Itali vocant."
I read this as, roughly,
There are garden roses, and if in Pliny's age there were more, in our age only three matter: the crimson, the white, and the flesh colored. In the white (alba) class is a very fragrant rose, called the Musk and the Damask by the Italians.
(Mattioli was an Italian physician who died nine years before the book was published, so this statement dates from earlier, probably the 1560s, when he was not in Italy.)
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