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'Grimpant Étoile de Hollande' rose Reviews & Comments
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5 APR 17 by
NikosR
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A question to those whose gardens are afflicted by powdery mildew. How would you judge Cl. EdH mildew resistance? Also does it repeat at all for you? I've read contrasting reports.
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Much to my surprise, Climbing Etoile de Hollande's bloom was not at all what I was expecting. This rose has a very thin delicate petal texture and the fragrance is ultra light and in the same "fragrance nuance" as the Peace rose it seems. I was expecting a heavy damask scent and not this light fragrance. Fragrance immediately faded the next day. I was also expecting a deep red rose, but instead it is very magenta. None of my red roses have this distinct magenta in them. Perhaps the age of the plant and being potted is the issue. When I transplant this rose, we will see what happens...I have a 2nd upcoming bud that looks like it will open to another very large-sized flower compared to how young this own-root is. Size of flower is 5" plant is exactly 16"... It has 3 buds total for its "first" flush.
Photo is 2nd EdH bloom displaying that same pinky-magenta.
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I can't get the Delete button to work.
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What are you trying to delete ?
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My reply was originally '?Mislabel", and I couldn't delete it, so I altered the words. I still can't delete my previous reply.
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Hi, Margaret :) my Climbing EdH came from a small, private nursery from a good friend of mine, very sweet and conscientious, so this is a rose that would not get "lost" amongst the numbers. Also the leaf shape, stem formation the nodding neck of the bloom (especially if you look at my first photo posted on HMF) and the lankiness of the canes really resemble Cl Etoile de Hollande. I was discussing with Jay-Jay that consistent weak fragrance, and he feels that ground-planting can really impact this rose as well. As soon as all 3 of its blooms open up I'll ground-plant it right away and I will update. The only thing is if! you have an own-root and it was potted and did have that strong fragrance right from the get-go, let me know this too. Thanks all!
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Does anyone know if this rose is shade tolerant?
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#1 of 7 posted
18 NOV 11 by
 jedmar
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Yes, it is. we have it climbing up a balcony on the shade side of our house.
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#2 of 7 posted
19 NOV 11 by
Jay-Jay
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Thank You Jedmar,
I replaced the Sympathy rose, because it didn't thrive at that spot under the big oak. It gets at least 4-5 hours of full sunlight during the summer, but it's very dry over there.
When You say this rose stands under Your balcony, it stands at a dry spot?
And does it rebloom as often as in full sunlight?
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#3 of 7 posted
19 NOV 11 by
jedmar
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Depends on what you call dry. This side of the house is protected against the prevailing rain direction. However, it is not too dry, as we have hosta and farns in the same shady area. The phorto shows 'Etoile de Hollande, Clg' reaching high up - It starts 2,5m lower than the low edge of the photo.
Difficult to say whether it blooms as much as if in sun, as we have only this one planted.
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#4 of 7 posted
19 NOV 11 by
Jay-Jay
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It's a big-one that Étoile de Hollande You photographed.. It must be a pleasure for the nose, when it blooms and the fragrance is wafting through the opened windows!
At my place there is a rainshadow under the oak, and even the oaks are shedding complete twigs and branches of 1 to 6 years old, because of the draught periods the last years.
But 3 m further there stood a big "wild" rosebush of 3-4 m high leaning towards the trunk of the oak.
My other Étoile still has some buds and flowers and it started early spring with 3 or more flushes and almost never without some flowers.
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It is, for me she blooms on the North wall.
Symphatie on the other hand does not like any shade at all. I had her in Groningen on South wall, but with some shade from the big tree - she hated it! She never bloomed (except like 1 bloom to prove she is not going to die) and never grew higher than a meter. Now she gets full sun (more or less) and is much bigger, blooms almost continuously till the winter. She tolerates wet feet quite well though, her current spot has some drainage issue (gotta love the sea clay).
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#6 of 7 posted
23 DEC 11 by
Jay-Jay
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Thank You Aurelija, for sharing Your experience!
I potted Sympathy and planted Cl. Étoile de Hollande, for Jedmar allready shared his experience too.
We'll see next year, how it behaves at that spot.
Meanwhile the city pruned the big oaks.
Now I have to find another (sunny) spot for Sympathy, maybe in someone elses garden.
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I think Sympathie could be trained on some obelisk like structure, so far she was staying more like a small climber here. The blooms are really nice though and does not get that much damage from the rain, which was so bad for the roses last summer. :)
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There are still three buds about to open any moment and it's almost Christmas!
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OK, Jay Jay, WHAT are you feeding that rose? LOL!
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#2 of 4 posted
23 DEC 11 by
Jay-Jay
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I know You're joking, but the answer is: Organic rotted manure and the mixture for roses from the Bierkreek, but the latter I only gave last year, Kim.
Almost the first AND the last to flower, but we still have high temps, the frosts, heavy rains and winds didn't harm the buds of this magnificent climber.
When it blooms (hopefully), I'll take pictures.
Some Austin roses (Molineux and A Shropshire Lad) are flowering too! And Gruß an Aachen has a lot of buds and foliage together with some flowers.
Still own flowers on the vase at this time of the year. Last year winter started in november.
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You've obviously "lucked out". You've fed them a rich diet they seem to really make efficient use of and Nature has finally smiled on you after several years of 'frowns". Congratulations and Happy Holidays!
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#4 of 4 posted
23 DEC 11 by
Jay-Jay
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Thank You and merry Christmas to You too and Y'all people of the HMF community!
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