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'Red Pierre de Ronsard Cl.' rose Reviews & Comments
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I planted 3 Red Eden/Red Pierre De Rosard in my very open space South Facing Veranda here in Sydney, Australia. Please see the site below.
http://www.helpmefind.com/gardening/l.php?l=21.267006
Just wondering if these 3 little babies will thrive on this place? During Winter it's partly shaded but a bright place as there are no trees or large bushes in the area. As you will see the Clivias' leaves are very green as this area is quite cool in winter here in Australia but when the Winter is over their leaves will get sun burn/light green.
But in Spring to Summer and until the early fall these area can get a short morning and a long afternoon direct sun and on the midday it can be very bright and warm as well but not much direct sun due to the ceiling above.
Please advice if they can have a very nice place to stay.
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I haven't grown this one. Be aware that you can't transpose growing conditions from Pierre de Ronsard to Red Pierre - have a look at the parentage. Nothing in common except the company releasing them.
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I have found this rose balls when it is humid. If you have trouble with this rose balling, you can get the blooms to open by pressing the outer petals down and out. The rest of the bloom can then expand.
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Yup, balls in wet and cooler weather, seems to do well in hot weather though.
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#2 of 4 posted
5 FEB 11 by
Suzanne
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I have the same problem with my red eden...it's three years old, (in the middle of Kansas,) and puts on wonderful, fat buds, but they just sit there and turn brown. So, I help them along by squeezing the buds, and it helps, but not all that well. It is under a large old tree, about 10 feet from the trunk and gets at least 5 hours of afternoon sun, but I thought maybe if I moved it to an all sunny location???? Does anyone think this will help, or just more work than it is worth? Other than the balling, the plant itself is very healthy, very strong canes and no leaf problems. Spring is approaching and I want to make a decision soon. Should I leave it--or move it--or....? Thanks!
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Generally roses do better with more sun, but I am not sure if that can solve the balling issue.At least here it all depends on weather patterns rather than position in the garden (my Red Eden is in full sun, still balls in rainy weather).
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#4 of 4 posted
7 FEB 11 by
Suzanne
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Thanks for your reply! I have a small mauve rose called Simply Marvelous that does the same thing in spring, but in the heat and dryness of summer, it thrives and the blooms are gorgeous. It has full sun all the time. I cut the Red Eden way back last fall just before the winter set in, so I guess I'll see what it does this year. Thanx!
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Does Red Pierre (Red Eden, Eric Tabarly) smell of myrrh? I was sent a wrong plant instead of Reine Victoria, and Red Pierre is alphabetically close enough to be likely. However it isn't climbing yet, and it smells like an Austin.
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#1 of 4 posted
27 MAR 09 by
 Cass
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Margaret, mine is not all that fragrant. It doesn't climb on arching canes but rather is more of a tall pillar, growing straight upright on stiff canes.
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I saw (and smelled) it few days ago at a retailer, and it had very good pure rose fragrance, maybe not the strongest ever but with a very nice "Papa Meilland" tone in it...
I don't remember it having any particular myrrh smell, which I don't like so much.
Here in Italy it seems able to properly open its flowers, as far as I know.
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#3 of 4 posted
10 JUL 09 by
jeffcat
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I have a Red Eden that I bought as a potted Star Rose this spring. What a GORGEOUS rose! It most definitely has a scent. I describe it as an Old Rose fragrance with slight sweet tea undertones in it. It isn't a spicy scent. The scent is definitely not strong. On a scale of 1-10, I would give it maybe a 5 in terms of strength, but it has a nice crisp distinct perfume to it. I would love it even if it smelled like manure though as the blooms are to die for.
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#4 of 4 posted
24 FEB 10 by
TLMKozak
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I agree that mine were also stiff upright canes and it was a lovely rose fragrance, sweet.
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I planted 2 climbing Red Edens four years ago in my zone 5 (at best) farm. Last year the frailer one did not survive. They were in a very difficult spot where wind and cold were incredible! I would trust this in a normal zone 5 in a regular landscape instead of open fields.
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