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'Lady Hillingdon' rose Reviews & Comments
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Interesting 1911 reference from 'The Garden' which reverses the usual parentage of 'Lady Hillingdon':
"In addition to the varieties named we have the parentage given of the following well-known sorts: [...] Lady Hillingdon (Mme. Hoste x Papa Gontier), [...] P."
I don't know who "P." is but he seems to be in the know, and I do wonder if this parentage might be the correct one, rather than 'Papa Gontier' x 'Mme. Hoste'. To me, it makes more sense to have 'Mme. Hoste' as the seed parent, as it was known to set hips very readily. Not only that, but Lowe & Shawyer's other famous rose 'Mrs. George Shawyer', from the same era, had 'Mme. Hoste' as a seed parent. I think sometimes early breeders would say a new variety was a cross between this and that, perhaps being a bit secretive, and a certain parentage would become writ in stone, so to speak.
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Very interesting HubertG and you make some excellent points. All we can do at the moment is to Note it on the main page. Thank you.
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30 MAY 20 by
HubertG
Thanks. It may not be correct of course, but it's certainly worth noting especially when it's such an early date.
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I realise that in the Australian book on tea roses the fragrance is described as moderate -- and no doubt that's how it comes across in those climatic conditions. In Europe, however (or at least Britain) Lady Hillingdon's scent is dependably strong (I have grown it for almost a decade). Indeed, it may well be the most strongly scented tea. See David Austin, Peter Beales and Trevor White websites, all describing the scent as 'strong' or the rose as 'very fragrant'. From memory Graham Stuart Thomas also praised the scent. So the description should probably be 'moderate to strong, opinions vary fragrance'.
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5 FEB 20 by
HubertG
I find that the fragrance is stronger here in Sydney in the cooler months of the year. It probably dissipates too quickly when it's hot. It has a lovely scent.
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5 FEB 20 by
Hamanasu
Yes, that's my guess too -- that the heat plays a major role in the intensity of scent. Heat can have the reverse effect, too -- I understand that Marie Lambert (aka Ducher) is strongly scented in Oz, but the scent is only light (at best moderate) over here.
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I'd call Marie Lambert "moderate" for scent. It's very pleasant, but not strong.
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The references mention “strong” and “rich” which certainly aligns with your nose Hamanasu. I have not bothered with “opinions vary” but just changed the fragrance to “Strong”. Many thanks for your insight.
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20 APR 19 by
Plazbo
I've never really been able to smell the tea fragrance and "tea" to me is vague enough to mean nothing specific so when I do smell something from a tea rose I've no idea if it's normal or not. Lady Hillingdon is having a big display now in the cooler autumn temperatures and it just smells of freesias to me....not sure how that would fall into tea.
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25 JAN 20 by
Hamanasu
Ha! To my nose it's not floral, but rather like coccoina glue, which is supposed to be marzipan-scented. At times it's also tarry, or smoky, sort of like tobacco. It's a very unique scent, very different from the pure tea scent of other teas. I love it.
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1 DEC 18 by
Plazbo
The only other rose in my garden with sign of red spider mites....but not bad enough that it's defoliating, just foliage that's discoloured. Other than that it seems pretty healthy, not the fastest grower though.
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