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Discussion id : 97-592
most recent 16 FEB 17 HIDE POSTS
 
Initial post 16 FEB 17 by CybeRose
The Rose : Its History, Poetry, Culture and Classification (1847) pp. 235-236
S. B. Parson
Thunberg speaks of the Rosa rugosa as growing in China and Japan, being extensively cultivated in the gardens of those countries, and producing flowers of a pale red or pure white. The original plant is of a deep purple color. Siebold, in his treatise on the flowers of Japan, says that this rose had been already cultivated in China about eleven hundred years, and that the ladies of the Court, under the dynasty of Long, prepared a very choice pot-pourri by mixing its petals with musk and camphor.
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Discussion id : 97-519
most recent 13 FEB 17 HIDE POSTS
 
Initial post 13 FEB 17 by CybeRose
Gardeners Chronicle & New Horticulturist - vol. 6, no. 144, page 351 (Sept 28, 1889)

When looking at a bush in Canon Ellacombe's garden at Bitton, he said, “You know that it is a garden hybrid from Rosa ferox," and I believe that he has a variety from it similar to that recently sent out by Bruant as Mrs. Georges Bruant.
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Discussion id : 97-518
most recent 13 FEB 17 HIDE POSTS
 
Initial post 13 FEB 17 by CybeRose
The Garden: An Illustrated Weekly Journal of Gardening in All Its ..., Volume 56, page 2 (July 1, 1899)

Rosa ferox from Canon Ellacombe, though not in flower, was interesting. It has tiny foliage, smaller than in Wichuraiana, but in appearance much resembles the hedge Briers.

Note: The Rosa kamtchatica described by Ventenat had leaflets 1 inch long (26 mm).
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Discussion id : 97-459
most recent 11 FEB 17 HIDE POSTS
 
Initial post 11 FEB 17 by CybeRose
The comment about the foliage of the Kamtschatka rose being "very large" contradicts Ventenat's observation that the leaflets were 26 mm. long and 15 wide (1 inch long by .6 in wide). This suggests that some other species or cultivar had already usurped the name by 1837.

Magazine of Horticulture, Botany and All Useful Discoveries and ...p. 77 (1837)

Rosa ferox and the Kamtschatka rose identical. — A remark will be noticed in the "List of Plants" attached to the December number of the second volume of this Magazine, page 470, respecting the specific of a large single red rose, commonly known in the few gardens in which it cultivated, as Rosa ferox. By that remark it would appear that this commonly received name was not correct. With this opinion I entirely disagree, and for the following reasons, viz.

I. Rosa Biebersteinii Lindl., or Rosa ferox Bieb, which is supposed to be the genuine species, having white flowers, will be found to belong to that group of roses, whose stems are covered with very minute prickles, and which have small delicate leaves, which, from their striking likeness, are termed Pimpinellifoliae. To this group belong the beautiful Scotch rose and its numerous varieties, which may be considered as its type.

II. The Kamtschatka rose has neither pimpernel leaves nor minute prickles; on the contrary, its foliage is very large and of a vivid green, and its prickles stout, rigid and long, and of uniform size.

III. This rose will also be found to be of Caucasian origin, the Rosa ferox of Lawrence and the Rosa kamchatica of Redoute.

For these reasons I am still inclined to maintain the common appellation of the plant in question, unless other and more decisive authority is adduced to invalidate its prior claims.—An admirer of Rosa ferox.
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