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'Paul's Himalayan Musk Rambler' rose Reviews & Comments
Discussion id : 26-066
most recent 4 APR 11 SHOW ALL
 
Initial post 5 MAY 08 by wernersen
I am growing PHM on a south facing balcony pillar in Berlin Germany in rather poor sandy soil. In its 3rd year it is about 3,5 m and growing vigorously.
Not knowing that PHM does not set hips generally i used it last year as mother for crosspollination. Surprisingly the cross pollinated flowers set hips that contained singel to few viable seeds.
Currently I am growing 6 hybrid seeldings.
It seems to me PHM might be a good rose for the lazy breeder as it does not need emasculation since it does not produce selfed hips.

I have to make correction to this message:
This year my PHM made lots of hips presumably from selfings. I have no idea why it did not last year. This year I did not mark my crossings assuming that only the crossed flowers will set hips, so I lost my crossings in the big amount of selfed hips.


PhM seeds seem to grow easily with me. I got six seedlings last year that have grown to almost 1,5m in one year. this year i have harvested lots of hips and sown the cleaned seeds directly in sowing dishes in a cold glashouse. By mid december I got a few, by end of december quite a lot of healthy seedlings. They seem to like temps of 0-10°C. (see my journal)
I am surprised, since there are no known descendants of PhM.
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Reply #1 of 3 posted 4 APR 11 by Jay-Jay
Hallo Werner, Wie vergeht es diese Sprosslinge jetzt?
Hello Werner, how are these seedlings behaving now?
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Reply #2 of 3 posted 4 APR 11 by wernersen
Hallo Jay-Jay,
it seemd those first 6 were not hybird finally. They flowered white to pale pink 2,5-4 cm diameter. Three of them grew to about 3m in two years and I removed them last year.
The seedlings mentioned in the last paragraph of the comment amounted to more than 300. My children were able to sell almost 200 of them at a local plant exchange at 20-50 cent a piece.
At the moment I have another ca. 50 seedlings in the second year and hope to get some flowering this spring. After flowering season all open pollinated PHM seelings that have not flowered or have flowers of no interest will be culled by me.

I have got so many more interesting seedlings (see journal e.g. PHM x Mozart) that I have to remove as many as possible to keep some space in my garden.
Should you have have interest in any plants let me know.
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Reply #3 of 3 posted 4 APR 11 by Jay-Jay
Thank You for Your reply Wernersen.
I hope the new seedlings bring what You had in mind.
The other ones You might use for/as a rootstock, for budding more interesting seedlings.
Maybe there is no known offspring of Paul's Himalayan Musk Rambler, because they're mostly lookalikes!
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Discussion id : 46-809
most recent 17 JUL 10 HIDE POSTS
 
Initial post 16 JUL 10 by Patricia Routley
HelpMeFind is giving a date of 1916 for the white 'Paul's Himalayan Musk Rambler'.
Brent Dickerson gives a date of 1899 for this rose, but he also lists a blush 'Paul's Tree Climber' with a date of 1916.
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Reply #1 of 2 posted 17 JUL 10 by jedmar
I also believe it is the 'Tree Climber', which was discovered in the 60s in England. I never saw a corroboration for 1899.
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Reply #2 of 2 posted 17 JUL 10 by Patricia Routley
Thanks Jedmar. I have a tiny plant coming on and the HelpMefind photos are helping me search for the best tree to put it under. I'll search the books later too for more 'Paul's Tree Climber' references. It sounds as though there is lots of interest, as well as beauty, in this rose.
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Discussion id : 39-453
most recent 27 SEP 09 HIDE POSTS
 
Initial post 27 SEP 09 by arvid jørgensen
This floriferous and fast growing rambler has become one of my favourites. I have grown particularily fond of profusely growing ramblers like this ,often referred to as monster roses, and I count a number of others too among my favourites. I planted this one some years ago, and to start with it froze back some in the spring. That was then. Now it has really "taken off" so to speak, and is starting to show its true glorious self, sporting canes,stems and branches in all directions. During the flush, which comes a bit early for a rambler like this, the thousands and thousands of flowers are displayed in such an eyecatching and breathtaking profusion that they almost obscure the foliage entirely. The plant is now covering most of an archway, and in addition to that, it is doing its best to outgrow an appletree. I picked the apples the other day. They are usually bright red on the sunny side. Only the sunny side is not there anymore. Most of them are pale yellowgreen. Only a few of them are blushing faintly. A friend of mine is set on planting this rose after having seen it in full flush in my garden, and I hope many more will learn to see the qualities of this and other" monster roses." Where am I going to put it you would say. Well, if you just have a small back of the house it is of course a bit difficult to squeeze it in. My garden is not more than about 750 sqare meters, and I have planted many of them, and I am still planning on planting more. Where? Up trees of course. If you have an old fruit tree that doesn`t give so much fruit anymore, and you don`t really want to take it down. Something from your happy childhood days. I say, give it a Paul`s Himalayan musk for instance to brighten it up in its old days. It will come to life again in a stunning explosion of roses, and what a glorious life that is. Finally to my fellow citizens in the Scandinavian countries I would say: I know most of you for some strange reason or other which eludes me, are scared of plants that grow too tall, to wide, too long, too much,too whatever. Don`t be. Try this one and you will be convinced. As a matter of fact, you will discover a whole new world.
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Discussion id : 25-436
most recent 13 APR 08 HIDE POSTS
 
Initial post 13 APR 08 by carriebaumes
The plant that Wayside/Parks sells as Paul's Himalayan Musk isn't correct. It's a large, vigorous climber with single (5 petals) small white flowers. Looks kind of like Darlow's Enigma on steroids. Just wanted to give Wayside/Parks consumers the heads-up that they will be receiving the wrong rose.
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