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'Queen Elizabeth' rose Reviews & Comments
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31 MAR 13 by
 goncmg
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Flippantly went to several known nurseries tonight to buy this one. Don't love it, see my prior post, but very important in history and I want it. Well, guess what? Barely available. Actually really NOT available. I am speechless. This one isn't even in the garden centers here in Columbus, bagged and waxed. Beyond shocked.
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Don't fear, it will come back next year to haunt us. Ugly flowers on a good bush, and since it is hard to kill it's perfect for beginners. I can't think of any other reason why this variety keeps on showing up in nurseries. I reserve the same derision for the Knock-out series. QE does have its uses in breeding, apparently it will accept pollen from almost anything and set seeds. Problem is, you have to breed out that ugly flower color and form in succeeding generations. ~Benaminh
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16 FEB 16 by
goncmg
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Great comment. I did get it again! In 2014 wham, there it was in my garden center! I used to absolutely hate all pink roses but lately have softened and am really finding beauty in them all. But I do agree with your general sentiment with QE and , wow, Knock-Out and anything named any sort of Knock-Out. And your comparison of QE and K-O is spot on. It is the "plant" that got them introduced, the blooms are not noteworthy (QE) and are downright ugly (K-O). Without a doubt hundreds of thousands of seedlings that look just like both of them have been culled since their introduction--in Knock-Out's case probably billions as Knock-Out looks like every disappointing seedling any hybridizer has hung his/her head over......roses were post war to maybe 1990 very much "fashion" (pun I suppose intended) and it took Knock-Out to get roses noticed again, grown widely again, and in some strange way "fashion" again. Lammerts and Radler won some Power Ball with their creations. The time was right, lightening struck, some marketing machine backing them up took a sell-able product and ran with it.
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It's a very strong clean tall gorgeous rose and climber . Simple as that. You want a long stem, beautiful bud, and a very strong pink color, this is the one. Easy to grow, disease resistant, survives nearly all seasons well. Can produce as many as 20 at a time in bloom on a very modest plant. I agree if there is a hall of fame for roses this would be one of the first honored. Great breeder also.
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Indeed. In 1978 the World Federation of Rose Societies declared this the world's favourite rose and gave it their Hall of Fame award. It is sometimes interesting to stop and look at the awards a particular rose has won. (Awards - at the top, in between lineage and references).
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I once grew Queen Elizabeth - no scent to speak of. But it looks very good at the rose park, tall, slender and. Queen Elizabeth gets my vote as the second best-looking shrub at the rose park in late fall, after Bolero Florbunda. She survives zone 5a winter well, and deserves credit for being tough and tall, so bunnies can't eat her. She makes a good seed-parent.
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27 FEB 12 by
goncmg
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As time marches on Queen Elizabeth is more and more, in my opinion, to be regarded as a historical piece. Measured against the others, 60 years ago, I would say the health and vigor were leaps and bounds beyond,. Judged by today's standards, average to somewhat lacking. This variety caused the AARS to create a totally new class, the Grandiflora, something that somehow is really tall and has blooms somewhat smaller and mostly in clusters or maybe not----to this DAY the GR class is an odd one! The color is banal. The form is cupped and totally garden decorative. If any rose could be considered a "weed" this would be a candidate and although it appears in the lineage of many, it never really has to my knowledge sired/birthed a real winner in the first generation. After its release there seemed to be a "Grandiflora Craze" and many others were released, some with the same parentage! PINK PARFAIT is far, far FARRR a better rose in my opinion, same general huge habit but lovely little perfect shaped blooms............and from the same era..........but anyone with an interest in roses needs to own a Queen Elizabeth or minimally go take a look in a public garden.............the leaf shape is a little unique I believe, being somewhat ovid-to-round, similar to Camelot.........fat canes, scarce but big thorns on QE..............
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