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Discussion id : 81-846
most recent 27 NOV 14 HIDE POSTS
 
Initial post 27 NOV 14 by CybeRose
American Farmer 3(15): 120 (July 6, 1821)
CHEROKEE ROSE
N. Herbemont
Columbia, (S. C.) June 5th, 1821

DEAR SIR—On looking yesterday over the second volume of your very useful paper, the "American Farmer," which I have received a few days since, I noticed the paper of the 2nd of June, 1820, a communication signed Charles P. Rowand, giving an account of a "New and beautiful species of Hedge." I have not seen Mr. Rowand's hedges; but I have heard of them, and I know that the plant it is made of, is most invaluable for this purpose. The common name is "Nondescript," also "Cherokee Rose," and its botanical name is "Rosa Laevigato," not "Rosa Multiflora," as Mr. R. has suggested. It is a native of the state of Georgia. I can send you a few of the hips of it if you wish. The raising it from the seed may be an advantage to the accustoming it to your climate. The "Rosa Multiflora" would, no doubt, make a beautiful hedge; but its thorns being much smaller than those of the other, it could not, so effectually, answer the desired object. If this error has not yet been corrected, it may not be unnecessary to do so. It is much to be wished, that the real botanical names, when they can be found out, be always used in publications relative to plants recommended, or mentioned for agricultural, medical or other useful purposes.— The want of such a name has caused many disappointments and discussions with regard to the Italian "Lupinella." Whereas, if it had been mentioned by its botanical name "Hedysarum Onobrichis," any person, by referring to a botanical book, could have learned that it is the Saint-foin.
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Discussion id : 76-159
most recent 21 JAN 14 HIDE POSTS
 
Initial post 21 JAN 14 by CybeRose
The Garden 49: 488-489 (June 27, 1896)
PROGRESS IN THE HYBRIDISING OF ROSES.*
*A paper by the Rt. Hon. Lord Penzance in "The Rosarian's Year-Book," 1896.

Another experiment must be recorded which up to the present time has not met with success. The beautiful glossy foliage of the Rosa camelliaefolia [laevigata] is very inviting to the eye of the hybridiser, and if I could only transfer this foliage to some of our Hybrid Perpetuals, I should consider it a useful triumph. But I could not get the camelliaefolia to flower. From what I have read in the gardening publications I conclude that other people have met with the same difficulty. At last my opportunity came. The splendid sunny season of 1893 ripened the wood of my plant so thoroughly, that in 1894 it gave me twenty flowers. Two of these I treated with the pollen of other plants, but obtained no hips. The remaining eighteen I reserved for pollen, with which I fertilised the blooms of numerous Hybrid Perpetuals. I had a good crop of seed, and I have, perhaps, a hundred plants. In vain have I looked for a shiny leaf. Many of the seedlings have a foliage inclining that way, and certainly different from that of the seed parent, but none (unless as they grow up they put on a more glossy appearance) carry the true Camellia-like leaf which was the object of my quest.
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Discussion id : 76-158
most recent 21 JAN 14 HIDE POSTS
 
Initial post 21 JAN 14 by CybeRose
A Concise Handbook of Climbers Twiners and Wall Shrubs (1906)
By Henry Purefoy Fitzgerald

Lists Rosa camelliaefolia as a synonym for R. laevigata.
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Discussion id : 10-482
most recent 18 MAY 12 SHOW ALL
 
Initial post 11 NOV 05 by RoseBlush
2005. Historic Rose Journal, The Royal National Rose Society, UK. Autumn, 2005, No. 30.
Peter Harkness. A History of the Rose Family.
One of the most fascinating research papers has to do with R. laevigata, also known as the 'Cherokee Rose', and the national flower of the state of Georgia. It is widespread in southeast USA and the general belief was that it seeded itself freely and thus became naturalised. Not so, says Dr. Charles Walker of North Carolina, who with Dennis Werner conducted the research. Acording to them, what happened was this. In 1820 a farmer wrote to a newspaper praising R. laevigata as a wonderful plant for landowners to use as hedges and field boundaries, and he offered to supply cuttings free of charge. The result was that cuttings were sent all over the southeastern states and to California, and some farmers planted them by the mile. They were even requested in Scotland, where the natives obviously found the free of charge offer irresistible, though I doubt if many survived for long, because the species is rather tender. In the warm states of America it throve to the extent that by 1852 someone reckoned that just two counties of Mississippi contained more than 1,000 miles of Laevigata hedging. Walker's team analysed samples from eight states, and established that most of the plants growing today are derived by vegetative propagation from two clones of the plant material sent out in the 1820s. This means their spread was due not to seeding but by means of persistent suckering. Therefore to say that the Cherokee Rose became naturalised is not strictly true, because that would imply it was successful in growing from its own seed, and evidence for this was lacking.
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Reply #1 of 1 posted 18 MAY 12 by Simon Voorwinde
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