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'Lee's Eternal' rose Reviews & Comments
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This variety is described in the main section as 'occasional repeat later in the season' but then in the lower section as 'repeat-flowering'. Some sellers say it is continiously flowering whereas others say it is only once blooming. As I have been searching the web I found no description that is the same as the other. Would you say this variety is once blooming or repeat-flowering?
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It's a long time since I grew it, but in England I remember it flowering all summer after the first flush... I don't recognise the bit about ''occasional repeat''... I do remember it blooming into autumn, always some here and there...
I've just noticed Andrew in a post below has confirmed what I just said... which is a relief... memory can be deceiving sometimes..
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I have to say my experience when I had one was different - I found that it was strictly a once bloomer, although very profuse when it did, but I do know that the example I see regularly in the Hiller Garden does repeat to some degree in the autumn. I was there today, and there were signs of one or two moth-eaten blooms left on the plant. It is a very old, well established specimen however, so maybe that makes a difference?
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I've just noticed it says in the main description that its shade tolerant, but prefers full sun - mine was in shade, so maybe that's a factor. I know it was very floppy as well, whereas the Hiller's one is very upright and dense.
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I find that you only get one or two blooms out at a time after the main flowering then a final flurry in October where it comes very close to a decent second flush.
ed. The 'Dunwich Rose' does a similar thing, so does 'Nevada'.
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In my Mediterranean climate it was definitely repeat-flowering. Maybe there are different clones around, similar to Souv de Mme Leonie Viennot; some say theirs is once-flowering, others have plants of it that repeat well.
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#6 of 9 posted
10 NOV 18 by
 Marnix
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In my climate on wet peatground with many hours of sun Stanwell Perpetual is continuous flowering whole season. In winter the flowerbuds are frozen and do not open, but when the temperatures are getting higher, new flowerbuds are coming. The bush is allways growing well but the grean leaves are always looking sick. They dont look nice green but always look autumn with brown and black colors on it. I do not cut the Rose after flowering. The only moment I cut this Rose is when I think it looks too bad to be a gardenplant. But thats very subjective. There are years I don' t cut it at all.
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I do the bare minimum of pruning as I dead head otherwise it is just pruning out the older stems , usually when they are about three years old.
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#8 of 9 posted
14 NOV 18 by
Marnix
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Sounds OK. But talking about Nevada: dead-heading is taking away the secund flowering. So don't dead-head Nevada (and Marguerite Hilling) becouse at the end of the canes where the first flowering came, het secund flowering is coming there too!
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#9 of 9 posted
12 SEP 19 by
Plazbo
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Here in Sydney Au it has flowered all year, even during the winter months (but winter here means maybe 10 hours total all season of temps at or below freezing)....it just has gross foliage here, constant downy/cerasphora/something, just constantly covered in tiny black dots and lots of the thinner wood dies. With all the thorns and sprawling twisty cane growth it's not a pleasant plant to maintain here, especially when you're often having to cut out dead canes.
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We have had a few quite hard frosts, proper dahlia slaying frosts all soft plants and any roses in my garden now hang down and are turning brown. If anyone was in any doubt this has definitely marked the start of winter and end of the growing season.
Yesterday at the R.H.S. garden, Rosemoor all their roses had succumbed as well. There was one exception, 'Stanwell Perpetual' there were plenty of flowers to out with masses of buds to come. Otherwise there was nothing else rose-like worth taking a picture of.
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Stanwell Perpetual was the only rose that died last summer, which was dry, when I chose not to water the well-established plants in my garden.
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As the 1896, 1899, 1902 and 1912 references are all French ones, I wonder if the C. Brown mentioned as one of the breeders, could have been a French distributor.
Later edit: Or more likely, Brown was Lee's nursery superintendent. Refer 2000 reference.
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do somebody has experiences with breeding with Hybrid Spinosissima (Standwell perpetual)
or with polar eis (rugosa) ? Especially what is about the fertility of the pollen ?
Does may be exist a list with fertility-result from different pollen ?
I start my first year in breeding with pollen and stigma and would appreciate very much to get help an input.. Wildrose and historic roses are most in my garden. Many thanks from switzerland.
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#1 of 5 posted
14 OCT 07 by
Unregistered Guest
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Stanwell Perpetual is sterile; cannot breed from pollen; must root it. Good luck.
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Stanwell Perpetual is moderately fertile as pollen parent. Seedlings have been produced using it's pollen.
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Have a look at Paula Vapelle, a very nice descendant.
http://www.helpmefind.com/plant/pl.php?n=44784
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Paul Vapelle is quite lovely!
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