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Discussion id : 62-239
most recent 25 FEB 12 HIDE POSTS
 
Initial post 25 FEB 12 by Jay-Jay
A very fertile seedparent!
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Discussion id : 60-591
most recent 24 JAN 12 SHOW ALL
 
Initial post 5 JAN 12 by Landperson
I can't figure out why this rose is a "Shrub" when both it's parents are "Floribundas" and in fact it is often a climbing rose at that. I have torn my hair out about this issue before and am no closer to understanding or acceptance than ever. (rant over).
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Reply #1 of 6 posted 5 JAN 12 by Kim Rupert
VERY simple...the person who registered the rose chose to classify it as a shrub. It is too large to be considered a traditional floribunda. It can be used as a shorter climber, but if it were classified as a climber, it would be avoided because, in comparison to other successful climbers, it doesn't climb. The shrub category is a catch-all for things which don't really fit elsewhere. Knowing this, if you were the introducer of the rose, wouldn't you have called it a shrub?
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Reply #2 of 6 posted 5 JAN 12 by Landperson
Nope, sorry. Everything I think I know about roses I gleaned from the Vintage Gardens Book of Roses where this rose is categorized as a Climbing Floribunda, so it will forever remain that way in my tiny little mind....
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Reply #3 of 6 posted 5 JAN 12 by Jay-Jay
In my garden this rose grows and behaves like a shub and is in no way the climber, as it was sold to me.
It will be replaced by a real climber and the Westerland gets a place in our garden where it can behave/grow as it wants: like an arching shrub, whatever official type it might be.
At Kordes und Söhne (the breeder of this rose) it's also sold as a shrub (Strauchrose).
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Reply #4 of 6 posted 5 JAN 12 by Landperson
Okay, I am convinced.
Thanks Jay-Jay.
Susan
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Reply #5 of 6 posted 5 JAN 12 by Jay-Jay
You're welcome Susan.
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Reply #6 of 6 posted 24 JAN 12 by Jay-Jay
My Westerland at the new spot under a big oak, after pruning. A bit out of balance, because it was earlier attached to the fence.
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Discussion id : 57-910
most recent 14 OCT 11 HIDE POSTS
 
Initial post 13 OCT 11 by Rob Byrnes
Completely defoliated in summer of 2011 after years of little blackspot. I shovel pruned it as it appears vertical disease resistance has broken down. Zone 6 NJ
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Reply #1 of 3 posted 13 OCT 11 by Robert Neil Rippetoe
Nice to know and glad now I haven't utilized it as a breeder. It's been a relatively poor doer for me in the low desert regardless.
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Reply #2 of 3 posted 14 OCT 11 by Rob Byrnes
I've also found in the last year that Westerland has not passed on great disease resistance to F1. The only exception was using her with (1-72-1 x L83) seedling. There resistance was passed on...probably from L83 genes or the combo of Westerland and L83.
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Reply #3 of 3 posted 14 OCT 11 by Robert Neil Rippetoe
Sounds like a great combo. Congrats.

It seems to be a great rose for most folks. It just hasn't been great for me in this climate.
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Discussion id : 44-025
most recent 18 DEC 10 SHOW ALL
 
Initial post 18 APR 10 by Unregistered Guest
Can anyone share how 'Westerland' performs in mainland Australia?
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Reply #1 of 3 posted 20 APR 10 by Patricia Routley
I don't grow it, so can't give a personal opinion.
On November 15, 2000 I saw 'Westerland' at the Littlerose Nursery in Canterbury, NZ and it impressed me then. My notes say "wonderful colour".
Five years later on another trip to N.Z., I recall seeing 'Westerland' in the Mona Vale, Christchurch, NZ Garden on Dec 7, 2005 when it was a pale orange and not very attractive.
Ten days later I saw it again at the Invercargill Botanical Gardens and noted that it was not very pretty. That clone was much more orange. (My tastes have certainly changed over the years) 'Westerland' grew well in New Zealand but the three specimens I saw were all in the south island, which may be a little cooler than Sydney.
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Reply #2 of 3 posted 20 APR 10 by Unregistered Guest
Thanks Patricia.
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Reply #3 of 3 posted 18 DEC 10 by Maxine N
I fell in love with climbing Westerland at the National Rose Garden at Woolmers in Northern Tasmania. The garden was looking pretty miserable because of a series of bad weather events, but Westerland shone. I have had my climber growing here in Hobart since mid 2009 and it has gone crazy this year with both growth and flower. Only problem: aphids seemed to adore it more than any of my other (59) roses!
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