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'Flesh-coloured Noisette' rose Reviews & Comments
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I had a Blush Noisette in my garden (Netherlands, z8, heavy sea clay) for about 4-5 years, it pretty much did nothing at all all that time, just got a few blossoms and stayed small 50 cm 1 twig wonder. Last autumn I was fed up with it, so I dug it up and planted in another garden, on a sandy soil (poor sandy soil on top of that). This year in that garden (without even any feeding), it is 1 m high 5 cane wonder, loaded with blooms. Not sure if that was rootstock problem or it generally prefers more acidic sandy situation, but in my garden it did not want to grow at all (musks next to it were fine on same rootstock), when in a new garden 40 km further it is a fine rose.
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By the way, although the HMF description notes this rose as being armed with thorns, Thomas for Roses says that their Blush Noisette is thornless.
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My presumed 'Blush Noisette' (taken as a cutting from Blechynden House, Bridgetown in 1998) certainly has thorns - on the smooth wood. The canes are variable in the number of thorns they carry, but I would describe them as "sparse".
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I was going to try one of T4R's anyway. I'll report back on the number of fangs once I have a good idea.
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Have just received a bare root plant from T4R and no, it aint thornless.
This is obviously a very young plant with limited growth, and things may change a bit down the track, but at the moment the thorns are quite small, generally not hooked (or only slightly) but fairly numerous. On average there would be roughly one every inch or 25mm or so, sometimes grouped around the cane and sometimes not.
Overall it's not a terrifying thing, but definitely not thornless. However, it should make nice flowers so I'm not going to grumble.
Edit: Have added a couple of photos to show the details.
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#3 of 4 posted
6 OCT 15 by
 jedmar
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The 1826 description of 'Blush Noisette' states "stromg, sparse, hooked prickles"
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I think it is a little more cold hardy than Celine Forrestier because Blush Noisette has endured two winters here without harm while CF failed in its first winter. It is evergreen in zone 7b and this helps it establish in dry soil.
I have a few reservations about it which stem at least partly from my incorrect expectations. I find it to be an awkward plant. In my garden it grew to five feet, stopped, and branched widely which was inconvenient because I was expecting a narrow climber. It creates great clusters of flowers, but its blossoms tend to dry out quickly in our low humidity climate. Nor do I find them especially pretty in color or in form. I find the fragrance sweet and simple, but not rich or satisfying.
I find it to be a good rose in a technical sense; but it has consistently failed to please. I'm going to have to move the two I planted, and I haven't thought of a new spot where I would be completely happy to see them grow.
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Blush Noisette is small for us compared to the noisettes, esp. the tea-noisettes. This is a plus in a small garden. However both my plants are in part shade (6 hours of sun or less) and altho Blush Noisette is still healthy in this situation I have seen a much better floral display in full sun.
This is a great shrub rose.. but NOT shade tolerant in either of of my gardens.
If anyone out there is successfully growing it as a climber, let us hear from you!
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