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Margaret Furness 
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24 AUG 08 by
Cass
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I counted the buds in a large cluster on this interesting found rose. The count was over 50 buds. The leaves have up to 9 leaflets.
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Need Photos?? I will add some!
Jeri Jennings
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I think I can add some more, too.
Jeri
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2 days ago by
ThomasR
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Hi, the May 2009 picture by Cass caught my attention. It shows some buds whose petals are somehow leaking sideway out of the sepals.
Last spring I was investigating a rose previously found in the edge of an abandonned orchard, blooming from Spring to november. Its buds very recurrently showed the same habit, both on original plant and cutting. Whether looking at pictures or at other shrubs in my garden, I only found this habit on damask roses, some gallicas, the 'bourbon' Rouge Marbrée, and Belle De Baltimore, which is said to be a Gallica hybrid.
I didn't find the time to pursue my researches, but the 1846, and also 1848 references about damask perpetual Belle De Trianon and Vibert's work from it had me wonder if some of the old noisette-looking found roses could belong to another class... I am joining some pictures of the rose I found.
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Can anyone advise if this rose is available in Australia please ?
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No gardens or sellers listed, no photos. Not all nurseries list their plants on helpmefind, but I don't think you'll find it.
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I've long read Banksiae seed can require two years to germinate. I've raised four seedlings from open pollinated Lutescens. Two have been fully double and one semi double with tulip shaped buds. The fourth succumbed to terminal mildew in infancy. This double yellow Banksiae is from OP Lutescens seed.
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Nice. But for clarification: did they take two years to germinate?
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Hi Margaret, sorry about that. No ma'am. All four of the self seedlings for Lutescens I've raised required only four months from planting. I've not kept any planted longer than one season so I have no idea what may germinate later. I haven't room nor patience for that long keeping tables of dirt. What you see was out of the ground in literally 120 days from planting.
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Thank you. So, a fair chance they'll repeat? (We say in Aus that a seed planted in August (winter) should flower by Christmas if it's going to repeat.)
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I live in a cool coastal climate. Here, Banksiaes "repeat" two to four times a year, literally. They will begin flowering, we'll have a short heat spell and they stop, then it cools and they start flowering again. But, then, I have apples which flowered all summer long last year. The seeds germinated quickly, but they took several years to flower.
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Thank you. Sounds like they're confused...
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So the question arises: did it sport or revert?
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